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[-] NothingButBits@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 1 year ago

Awkward? You'll see how quickly Euros will turn on Ukrainians. They'll have the nerve to demand explanations for why these refugees don't want to fight. Euros will then try to enlighten them, as to why Ukrainian refugees throwing themselves at minefields is their duty. When these refugees refuse to do so, anger will follow. They'll be accused of being Russian spies, forcefully conscripted and the ones who can hide will probably have to live clandestinely in slave like conditions.

With news that any Ukrainian can be a double agent for Putin, public support for Ukraine will continue to deteriorate and Ukraine will be left to fend for itself.

[-] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Nah, if there's anything I've learned this last year it's that the sheep will never turn on their precious Ukrainians. Not that I think they should, but support for this war is so utterly artificial that I can't comprehend the news switching up like that.

[-] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago

it’s that the sheep will never turn on their precious Ukrainians.

They won't turn on the government, they don't actually care about the people (or they would be pushing for peace accords). If the AFU comes around asking them to deport refugees back so that they can be conscripted, they will probably glady do so. Because of course the brave plucky Ukrainians must want to fight. Anyone who doesn't must be a Russian sympathizer/not a real Ukrainian.

[-] TrudeauCastroson@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They sort-of are. I heard from a czech guy that his family back there are complaining about refugee crime.

It was weird hearing it because usually you'd expect that sort of rhetoric to follow us-foreign-policy

Idk if his relatives listen to Czech version of fox News or what but it was surprising.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

There are a lot of tensions with the Ukrainian refugees in Europe already actually. Here's one example. We also see tensions over stuff like cheap grain from Ukraine affecting farmer profits. There was an initial euphoria accepting refugees because everybody thought the war would be over in a few months. Now that reality is starting to sink in, the public is starting to sour on the whole thing. The fact that Europe is going into a recession is also feeding into this. People are seeing their standard of living drop, and they're becoming increasingly resentful of Ukrainians now. We're also seeing right wing nationalist parties starting to get a lot of support in many European countries.

I think the reality is that when push comes to shove Europeans are going to throw Ukrainians to the curb without thinking twice about it.

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