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If you don't then you're either not paying attention or something is wrong with you. The correct response to the state of the world is depression and anxiety
One of the more depressing bits or research related to this. When estimating, "normal" people are excessively optimistic (aka rose tinted glasses). Depressed people were a lot more accurate in their estimates.
It turns out we need those blinkers to not tear ourselves to pieces over the state of things.
The assholes and monsters in power depends on those blinders to get away with their shit. The fact that the Orange Jackass got elected again is all the proof you need of that.
Being depressed and being anxious are not the same thing as the medical conditions known colloquially as "depression" and "anxiety".
Equivocating the two is part of the reason mental health treatment is stigmatized, and is what causes dangerously-dismissive statements like "he can't have depression, he has a good life".
This is true, though most people asked that in a casual doctor's appointment aren't actually equipped to delve into that nuance.
Of course, that "no" is the way to extend the conversation to dig a bit deeper. The last thing someone suffering with the conditions needs is for someone to optimistically assume "normal" and brush a potential sign of trouble under the rug as 'normal'. Maybe after a bit more digging it's clear it's just reasonable sadness or nervousness versus something deeper, like a seeming inability to feel pleasure or happiness.
I don't fall for black pill propaganda.
What does that even mean?
https://incels.wiki/w/Blackpill
basically "there's no hope and I'm not willing to work on change, so we should just all kill ourselves already"
I don't think that's what I said though. Pretty big leap to make. idk
I don't necessarily view it as you saying people should kill themselves. Maybe black pill isn't as generic of a term as I thought it was and people only heavily associate with incel stuff.
To me this just reeks of the "there is no hope" type of rhetoric. Things are awful, I'm not saying they're super cool, and I don't have false impressions of things getting better soon, but giving up is what they want.
The correct response is anger. Depression and anxiety are the socially acceptable responses left when we're conditioned to avoid anger at every turn.
Could be others are better at dealing with stuff
Dont break their illusion.
Well yeah it's pretty obvious in this case. "Doctors" are generally rich and extremely privileged. They're outside the cares of regular servants.
Eh..... It kind of depends on if they paid for medical school or their parents paid for medical school.
Most doctors don't really start making a decent living until they're in their mid 30s, and most of that goes to paying back loans. Medicine does not pay what it used to, and residencies are still basically a form of slavery.
I agree the work culture in residencies needs to change. I still find it hard to sympathize with the med school debt. Like many homeowners were paying off their debt for quite a while and came out way ahead. I expect the same of doctors.
Not saying they don’t work very hard and are very stressed, but they are wealthy when you define wealth over the course of life (and their ability to spread that wealth across time with credit).
It's yet to play out really. The drastic change in rate of reward vs debt is relatively new, and the debt to pay ratio is getting worse and worse, at least outside of specialties. There are older physicians who are still practicing that are making bank, but that doesn't really guarantee the younger physicians are going to be in the same place when they get that age.
The management and finance sectors of healthcare are now taking the lion's share of profit, and less and less physicians are owning their own practices.
I'm not saying they aren't going to be financially comfortable, but it wouldn't surprise me if most newer physicians end up just being upper middle class instead of "rich or wealthy".
That’s fair, I hadn’t really adjusted for the recent COL problems. But I’m also thinking of specialities over family physicians, which seem to have already been screwed even years ago.
Yeah, it's getting hard to find people willing to stay in family medicine. Specialists just end up earning so much more that it's almost financially irresponsible to not do a fellowship if you can.
I will say that one of the good things about medicine no longer being super lucrative is that it's no longer really attractive to people who are interested in the field just for the money. It's a lot easier and more profitable to just get an MBA, or go into finance if you just want to make money.
Though that fact has created some of the worst people in the world imo.... There's a subset of physicians who end up deciding they hate patient care and end up going back to school for their MBA to become hospital administrators.
There are parts of the world which are doing fine/haven't changed. And people can ignore things happening somewhere else quite good or just gettung used to it. We had decades of cold war with the looming immediate annihilation of all humanity and people still did fine.