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[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

(Not to pick on you specifically)

for mass adoption someone's going to need to figure out how to make it as easy to install Linux as it is to install Windows.

No. This has been true for a decade already. Install Windows from scratch and it sucks too. It will be missing essential software and drivers. It will have tons of absolutely STUPID default settings selected. For mass adoption we need to seize the factories where consumer electronics are produced. There is no alternative. Until then, computers and mobile devices will ship with this garbage and that is what people will use.

The sticking point is not how easy it is to install, or the quality of the software (or how difficult to use and shitty the stock software is). The sticking point is that people are spending hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars on a machine and want it to work "as intended." They don't want to do anything they are conditioned to think might void the warranty. They'll just tell themselves "oh, it works fine I guess."

It is easy (enough) to spend $1,000 on a laptop, unbox it, set the instruction booklet on fire, and wipe the drive before even peeling the plastic film off. Most people simply consider this a ridiculous thing to do.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. When people can actually buy a device with Linux installed, they love it. See Steam Decks.

[–] trinicorn@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

HP dev one kinda flopped

But they really went out of their way to make it a "separate special thing only for developers". They didn't even sell it on hp.com

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that's kind of a running theme with pre-installed Linux. You can't just go to the store and buy one, it's always some weird sale they hide in a closet.

[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

I mean fair, I mostly agree, but it's not really true that it's as straightforward to install any kind of Linux as it is to install Windows. Not everything is Arch but it will take several extra steps compared to what Windows requires and the documentation can be overkill for your average user or weirdly judgemental towards users who aren't familiar with Linux at times. A lot of this would be fixable with better education that teaches people how and why to mess with the tech, but obviously that's not happening under capitalism either.