The Democrats literally conceded immigration as a national security issue and changed the debate to who could solve it more efficiently in the 2024 elections.

Even before they publicly accepted the Republican framing, Obama built the concentration camps Trump was derided for during his first term.

[+] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works -7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh right, I'm on ML. Where whatever a building is used for now is the fault of whoever built it.

No difference between fighting human trafficking and separating all children from all parents.

No difference between having immigration laws and shipping random brown people to Sudan.

Same same same nuh uh always same.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Obama literally built them as and used them as concentration camps wtf are you talking about. They weren't all encompassing resorts that Trump remodeled.

Trump also claims he's only targeting criminals and human traffickers, the only difference is you rightfully don't believe him, but wrongfully believe the Dems.

It's not the same as always, it's worse under Trump2 than it was under Biden, or even Trump1. If Kamala won, it would also be worse than Trump 1 or Biden, you just wouldn't care. Just like you didn't care when Biden was as bad as Trump1.

The point is not that things are always the same, the point is that both parties serve the same donors and core system and will ultimately do what the system demands of them. That's why the Dems started pushing the same "immigration as a national security" issue, they were manufacturing consent.

[–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Were they not?

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No. They weren't.

Generic percentage increases to immigration enforcement are not the same as Kristi Noem tweeting about SIXTY-FIVE MILLION PEOPLE, no matter how strongly you feel about the shit we were doing before.

The Idiot is talking about stripping natural-born citizens of that citizenship, and sending them all to cat-food factories in Sudan, and y'all still wanna bicker about Obama catching people crossing the border. Like you can't figure out there's a difference between a little over a million people, across eight years, and every Hispanic in America facing a no-trial black-hood flight to fuckoff nowhere, as soon as practically possible.

[–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

some people kill a few people, some people kill a lot. Both are murderers. If you can support one it shows your moral failure.