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Nothing can convince me that northern European climate isn't the best climate for humans. It's nice to have warm summers and all but for the rest of the year I'll decide how hot I am thank you very much.
No lol. Humans evolved to live in 25c as a normal average temperature. Living in colder places like the UK and Russia is facilitated and made possible only by immense burning of massive amounts of fossil fuels through both direct heating and manufacture of clothes.
You do realise that people did live in the UK (and Russia) before the discovery of fossil fuels, right?
Yeah, but it was miserable for 90% of the population during winter. If you were a peasant that ran out of fuel in the winter you were likely to die of hypothermia back in the day if you werent in top health.
Live? No. Survive? Yes. Some still do out there I think.
25c - 34c is the comfortable temp range range for summer/spring though at UK moisture levels and wind speeds. It's too wet and too windy for even that to feel particularly hot.
Once you account for wind chill and humidity, UK 10c winter temp is like ~4c actual felt temp.
And misunderstanding moisture levels effect on perceived temperature too? Damn. You're without a doubt the most uneducated person I've encountered this week.
Being uneducated and calling others uneducated? Are you a Reddit refugee by any chance?
Go read:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_comfort https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_temperature
You can check the primary sources under the claims on Wikipedia yourself and maybe learn a thing or two before you go around spread misinformation and calling others uneducated and making a confidently incorrect fool out of yourself.
I would also read some about "Wind chill" and the Heat Index. Start with Wikipedia but check the sources and explore these concepts. Then look at thermodynamics and how heating in your home actually happens and how insulation plays into it and how energy is produced.
Good day.
I am going to assume you're autistic since you've clearly given this a lot of thought, yet lack understanding.
Evolution doesn't have a goal or plan at all. We humans have evolved with the necessary traits to live in, every environment we currently live in. You want to argue that our ability to warm ourselves with clothing and cook our food doesn't count? Do you hold other animals, like for example ants to the same standard? Their ability to build and cooperative, like us humans, is the reason they're some of the most successful species on the planet. But you want to judge ants by a single ant on its own?
I am well versed in the subjects you linked. I just believe you've gotten a weird idea in your head about where humans are "meant to live".
Could you point me to where you picked up these ideas? I'd like to be aware if there's some new global warming acceleration movement going on, which I'm assuming you're promoting.
I was responding to your claim that I was misunderstanding the effect of humidity on air temperature.
Hence y'know - all the stuff about humidity and air temperature? The stuff I posted that you're allegedly "well-versed" on?
Judging Ants? Evolution? Did you reply to the wrong thread or are you just spamming random nonsense? And why are you talking like a 14 year old? And what is with all that ableist shit about autistic people? Is it meant to be insulting?
Edit: Now that I think about it, that insult doesn't even make any sense - autistic people usually are known for having a special interest and lots of specific knowledge in an obscure subject.
The "autism" as-internet-insult that I think you're using is meant to imply someone is out of touch or too deep in the weeds wrt some overly nerdy topic like ricing window managers in Linux or something.
I definitely don't know much about the topic at all nor have I thought about this for very long, this isn't my specialty, nor do I claim to be "well-versed in all these subjects" which I'm not sure is even actually possible as they're separate areas of study - but if I were, I would not use it as a source of authority, I just have the basic research skills needed to cite established and well-regarded sources to back up the specific claims I made.
If you'd like to prove something in a debate or make a point in a discussion or establish a claim as valid - you should probably do so by doing the same, not simply claiming to be an authority and then going on some rant about ants and autism.
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Do you not remember what you wrote a couple of comments ago? This tirade about windspeed and humidity is irrelevant to the conversation. Humans are excellent at adapting to different climates. You can't simply say "oh humans can't live in the cold" because we definitively can.
That's a grave misunderstanding of both evolution and human history you got there my guy.
people have lived in both Russia and the uk since the paleolithic
Judging by the downvotes people really underestimate how much emissions come from heating and how intolerable temperate continental winters are without it.
And also don't seem to understand how wind speed and rH% actually mean that it could be argued UK winters are anything but "temperate".