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[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 day ago (12 children)

zelensky himself could do a press conference where he just says "i think we're fucked lads" and these libs will say it's a secret kremlin plot

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago (11 children)

It’s simply breathtaking to watch the meltdown of people who’ve spent three years guzzling propaganda, when reality finally intrudes into their bubble.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

i think it's both breathtaking and frightening; SO MANY people across this planet have bought into the belief that the united states had nothing to do with this war despite so many articles, videos, news reports, etc. stating the exact opposite makes it clear that people's beliefs trump reality.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's by far the most frustrating aspect of the whole thing. It's not like they were hiding this. You can literally read articles like this, published in mainstream press explaining in detail why the US wanted to have a proxy war with Russia. It's all in the open, and yet we're still having these struggle sessions with people adamantly denying that this is a proxy war.

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/strategy-avoiding-two-front-war-192137

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wonder if this is a bit like how climate scientists feel; having a very large body of evidence clearly saying that climate change is upon us, yet we choose to disregard it anyways.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that's a very similar scenario now that you mention it

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It makes me wonder if expecting people to read m/l theory is an unrealistic expectation.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago

I think if the proletarians were able to read it back at the start of the 20th century when literacy was far worse and information was much harder to access, there's little excuse for people not to read it today. It's the one proven way to improve conditions for the working majority. We are in a privileged position where all the theory and practice is available to us having been won by prior generations, and we're too lazy too bother learning it.

[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As the brother of a climate scientist let me assure you the climate scientists I know are beyond black pilled, while my sibling was getting their PhD they would be bombarded with ads from anti climate change lobbying groups trying to convince her that climate change was fake or she can make a bunch of money peddling fake science. They’ve been ignored since the 1980s 55 years of having our head in the sand and this shit is going to come back to bight us in the ass so hard in the next decades. To be fair at least the USA let James Hansen speak to congress in the USSR you were just ignored and then called an enemy of the state if you were an environmentalist.

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