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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 34 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I love how you trolls always start making personal attacks when faced with news you don't like. Also love how you're insinuating that official Ukrainian media is disinformation.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

zelensky himself could do a press conference where he just says "i think we're fucked lads" and these libs will say it's a secret kremlin plot

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s simply breathtaking to watch the meltdown of people who’ve spent three years guzzling propaganda, when reality finally intrudes into their bubble.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

i think it's both breathtaking and frightening; SO MANY people across this planet have bought into the belief that the united states had nothing to do with this war despite so many articles, videos, news reports, etc. stating the exact opposite makes it clear that people's beliefs trump reality.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's by far the most frustrating aspect of the whole thing. It's not like they were hiding this. You can literally read articles like this, published in mainstream press explaining in detail why the US wanted to have a proxy war with Russia. It's all in the open, and yet we're still having these struggle sessions with people adamantly denying that this is a proxy war.

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/strategy-avoiding-two-front-war-192137

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I wonder if this is a bit like how climate scientists feel; having a very large body of evidence clearly saying that climate change is upon us, yet we choose to disregard it anyways.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

that's a very similar scenario now that you mention it

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It makes me wonder if expecting people to read m/l theory is an unrealistic expectation.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

I think if the proletarians were able to read it back at the start of the 20th century when literacy was far worse and information was much harder to access, there's little excuse for people not to read it today. It's the one proven way to improve conditions for the working majority. We are in a privileged position where all the theory and practice is available to us having been won by prior generations, and we're too lazy too bother learning it.

[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

As the brother of a climate scientist let me assure you the climate scientists I know are beyond black pilled, while my sibling was getting their PhD they would be bombarded with ads from anti climate change lobbying groups trying to convince her that climate change was fake or she can make a bunch of money peddling fake science. They’ve been ignored since the 1980s 55 years of having our head in the sand and this shit is going to come back to bight us in the ass so hard in the next decades. To be fair at least the USA let James Hansen speak to congress in the USSR you were just ignored and then called an enemy of the state if you were an environmentalist.

[–] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Blargh! Please don't use the T word if it's not necessary. There are other words to substitute. That word should be shunned and thrown in the garbage!

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

its kind of fitting though since he's also ignoring reality.

[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s a good 95% of all humans just look at climate change. People are still denying it’s real to this day when we’ve reached the 1.5 barrier 75 years to early.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

I was going to say something like this and I wonder if this is what climate scientists feel like when voters don't bother w facts

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

insinuating that official Ukrainian media is disinformation.

Well...

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago