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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They're literally no better than Hamas at this point. Hamas's who deal is, "fuck it. We'll kill the innocent with the guilty, let Allah sort it out."

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Please give me: statistics on the bystanders killed by hamas vs. statistics on the bystanders killed by the Israeli occupation forces

EDIT: Misread comment, but hamas still clearly values human life more than Israel

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's actually a lot worse. The IDF has a much, much higher rate of civilians killed for every noncombatant than Hamas does. Hamas is objectively better at avoiding civilian casualties than the IDF is.

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Oh my bad, I misread your comment and thought you meant they're better than hamas.

I'm palestinian so I am biased, and I do obviously agree 100%

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Would be interesting to see the statistics, if someone has calculated them. I wonder if reservists count as combatants or noncombatants. Would skew the numbers a lot

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well, the vast vast majority of Hamas fighters are what a regular military would classify as "reservists." Hamas are mostly part-time fighters who otherwise have regular civilian jobs and live regular civilian lives. (Or at least they did before the Gaza strip was blown to rubble.)

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

Hamas is an irregular force, not sure they have what are traditionally understood as reservists

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 7 months ago

the IDF has indiscriminate bombings or attacks. hamas doesnt want to lose public favor from gazans.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

It's amazing that, even after realising that Zionists are dishonest fascists, you still unthinkingly accept their characterisation of Hamas.