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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 hours ago (7 children)

What's the point? Even if we reach a deal, it's not like Trump is stable or trustworthy enough to honour it.

We MUST keep our threats in place for at least 30 days after Trump's last threat, or else this off-and-on bullshit will just continue indefinitely. And we should extend that delay every time Trump plays his games.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Even if we reach a deal, it’s not like Trump is stable or trustworthy enough to honour it.

I don't think this is entirely true - Trump is obviously not trustworthy, but the government has been able to leverage CUSMA to lessen the impact of the attempted tariffs. There seems to be some benefit to having a formal deal in place.

But I'm definitely not comfortable with this capitulation at all.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There seems to be some benefit to having a formal deal in place.

Yes, but the "in place" part is what's in question. You can sign a deal, and the next day Trump can say it was a bad deal and it's off the table... again.

Much of the stuff he's bickering about now are things HE negotiated during his first term! He'll never be happy, and we have to stop wasting time on this baboon and seek partnerships with leaders who aren't complete assholes.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It's geographically impossible for Canada to completely eliminate trade with the US.

I absolutely agree that it should be minimized, though.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, we should do both. Minimize the damage and reduce reliance. I think quitting cold turkey might lead to worse outcomes, including a possible reorientation towards the US under a prospective reactionary conservative government.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

We can do minimal trade, and only when absolutely necessary, with Blue states.

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