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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The voices of reason are becoming outweighed here.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah so let's just ignore that they exist.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You misunderstood me, possibly because you were telling me to go fuck myself on another post. "Assaultpotato" is a voice of reason on this post. People read a news story about the Supreme Court staying an order and now want to impeach the whole Court?

I'm afraid the politics and news communities hosted on Lemmy servers are falling off the deep end.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was one commenter and the following comments rebuking them are much more highly upvoted. It's maybe a bit early to stick a fork in it.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When no one signs, they all signed

Has 8:1 upvotes to downvotes.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Except those who dissented publicly, right? Pretty sure Sotomayor was pretty publicly pissed off at the rest of the court.

Has 43 upvotes as of this comment.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess people just don't like to downvote. Which is outside of my experience, but maybe I am more polarizing.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 20 hours ago

Some instances disable downvotes. Certainly not all, but some. I'm not 100% sure if that means they dont count down votes in their communities, or if they dont allow their users to downvote anywhere, but I suspect the latter.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Personally I reserve downvotes for rulebreaking, offensive comments, spam, things of that nature. Differences of opinion I just don't upvote. Perhaps this is more common on Lemmy than other places.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well. Yeah?

They're powerless, they might as well not exist. The only purpose they serve is keeping even more fascists off the Court.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago

What a braindead take.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You say that, but majorities across the board are razor thin. Assuming there's still midterms a lot of this can be flipped.

The courts of course will be harder to fix

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

... but we were talking about the Courts?

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In our system a large enough majority in congress can overrule a lot of what the courts are doing unless they go absolutely bonkers.

The court can say there's nothing the in the constitution that prevents "X", but congress with a large enough majority can pass a bill without the president's signature to expressly allow "X".

Our courts have not yet shown a willingness to go totally rouge and have voted against Trump several times this administration alone, but they always could go rouge I suppose. And of course they make shitty decisions like these.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Overturning Roe was a rogue act, completely defying precedent. Just recently they ruled that banning healthcare for trans children is constitutional too, despite it clearly being discrimination based on sex i.e. a recognized class.

They're making rogue decisions all the time, they just occasionally rule against Trump so you don't start losing faith in the Courts and don't start looking for alternative solutions.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately viewed from the constitutionalist theory which has always existed within the court it does make sense. There is a fair argument, one i personally disagree with, that the result of Roe is not in the constitution and therefore not something the court can legislate from the bench. Likewise with the arguments used against Trans youth.

I don't like these decisions, I don't support these decisions, but they do exist within the traditional frameworks and legal arguments of courts past. We've been rather fortunate for the past 30 or so years to have a more liberal court that prefers to take an interpretive view.

The only decision they've made recently that is outside of that is the idea that the president has total immunity for "official acts" that has no basis in the constitution at all.

If anything the current court make up emphasizes why things like Roe should have been codified years ago.

These are dark times for many of the liberties we all enjoy, but for the most part this courts actions do line up with historical precedent of a conservative court. It is a nightmare, and far too many people are going to suffer. I just hope that we all make it out of this and Institute real reforms across the board.