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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
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[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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HN is being ... surprisingly on point with this one. Choice quotes:
“However, reading this article about all these people at their "Galt's Gultch", I thought — "oh, I guess he's a rhinoceros now" ” — https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44317651
“It's very telling that some of them went full "false modesty" by naming sites like "LessWrong", when you just know they actually mean "MoreRight" ” — https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44319387
“I feel like I'm witnessing something that Adam Curtis would cover in the last part of The Century of Self, in real time.” — https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44317313
etc etc.
jhbadger:
I haven't read Becker's book and probably won't spend the time to do so. But if this is an accurate summary, it's a bad sign for that book, because plenty of them were bonkers all along.
(Becker's previous book, about the interpretation of quantum mechanics, irritated me. It recapitulated earlier pop-science books while introducing historical and technical errors, like getting the basic description of the EPR thought-experiment wrong, and butchering the biography of Grete Hermann while acting self-righteous about sexist men overlooking her accomplishments. See previous rant.)
That Carl Shulman post from 2007 is hilarious.
The "two articles below" are by Yudkowsky.
User "gaverick" replies,
Shulman's response begins,
Ray mothersodding Kurzweil!
The intelligence is magic and the higher your intelligence the more magic thinking is quite something.
E: should have scrolled down, astrange said it better.
nah it's good, you should read it
astrange:
I Can't Believe It's Not Flagged
s/o to one of the comments basically saying that Scott is the Simone de Beauvoir of rationalism
oh my god
the second scott