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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think the major problem here is you take the mainstream econ theory as truth and validation that you're correct. Just because everyone and their mother repeats the consumption narrative you think that it is correct even though its not.

China has been retreating on the Biden negotiation since late 2023. I mentioned many times, Yellen and Blinken went to China to force the issue that China needed to solve their trade imbalance. The CPC folded and started doing consumption stimulus shit because it is what their mainstream neolib advisors taught them. All of what we the supposed "Marxists" say about building industry suddenly becomes moot because western educated "economists" say otherwise.

I'll give you a very specific example, here this page compiled some of these Western economists saying the exact stuff you repeat here. These are some of the economists pushing exactly for this.

YAO Yang Ph.D., Agricultural and Applied Economics, University of Wisconsin-Madison, 1996. Major: Economic Development.

Professor Li holds a Ph.D. in economics from Harvard University. In 1985, he obtained his BS from Tsinghua University as one of the first undergraduate class of the School of Economics and Management, where he is serving as a faculty member.

Dr. Feng Lu - Ph.D. in Economics, University of Leeds, UK, 1994

Here is what one of them admit to

Some European think tanks have expressed concerns about China. They worry that, under the pressure of U.S. tariffs leading to a reshaped global trade structure and the gradual closure of the U.S. market, China’s surplus capacity products may flood into other countries and regions, putting pressure on Europe, Asia, and South America, making it harder for them to survive. This concern is somewhat reasonable, and it can even be inferred that if China continues to follow an export-oriented manufacturing model dominated by the supply side, countries across Eurasia may follow the U.S.’s lead and introduce trade protectionist policies, ultimately resulting in a fragmented global trade environment similar to the pre-World War II period. This would significantly increase China’s difficulty in expanding its geopolitical space. In contrast, implementing the “Two 30” major strategy would be a more feasible path.

Achieving the target of increasing domestic consumption by 30% by 2030 is both achievable and idealistic, making it a grand strategy. Drawing on the experience of European and American countries in the thirty years after World War II, these nations accelerated their transition to domestic demand-driven, service-based economies by strengthening social security, improving labor education levels, enhancing public services, and reinforcing innovation. When facing U.S. tariff bullying, many believe that the U.S., as the largest global consumer market, is in a dominant position, and other countries, as suppliers, must accept changes to the rules or risk losing out. However, this view is outdated. Historically, the evolution of economic entities and strategic decisions shows that the positions of parties A and B are not fixed. With China’s increasing income levels, changes in development concepts, demographic shifts, and technological advancements, if the decision-makers can implement reforms to strengthen social security, improve workers’ education, build public welfare, and perfect social security for migrant workers, farmers, and flexible workers, China could accelerate its transition to a domestic demand-driven economy, rather than merely positioning itself as a supplier.

Can you spot the mistake here? This quote doesn't understand the only reason Europe grew post WW2 was exactly due to its destruction. European capital had a brief moment of very high profitability because Europe had been temporarily de-industrialized.

Likewise there is absolutely zero acknowledgement that the only reason the EU can become a "domestic driven, service-based economy" is literaly because of Western imperialism. Without this benefit this is not possible.

Yet they literaly admit to idealistic plans to turning China into Europe 2.0 based "on the same experience".

This is despicable garbage.

You keep repeating this here on the megas for months as "this is what China needs to do" etc. I tried arguing against it a few times but it is a pointless endeavour to keep repeating stuff. Let the people who go to a "Marxist-socialist" site embrace the comments supporting neoliberal-keynesian off brand that come directly from the mouth of western educated economists if they want was my conclusion.

Now the Trump tariffs was the first time since then that China could have hit back decisively and force concessions out of the US. Instead they're the ones who conceded to the tariff hike.

In an alternative world the CPC wasn't clueless and didn't just follow western educated financial advisors, they would not have folded on the overcapacity issue and Trump would not have any way to force his tariff shit because China would have already told Biden/Yellen/Blinken to eat shit.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 17 hours ago

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