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[–] cogman@lemmy.world 152 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Dems don't need to go low. They need to stop chasing conservative voters.

The reason they are so timid on everything is because the consultant class has convinced them that if they are just a bit more right wing, they'll win the next election.

If Dems fired the consultants and chased the working class, they'd win big time. People hate the Dems because they are corporate captured.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago

Dems don’t need to go low.

Yeah, they just need to stop taking the high road. The regular road where people are called out held accountable for being terrible is fine, no need to go low.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good ol America where your options are corporate captured, or corporate captured but with slurs and hate speech.

We get to choose between Coke and Pepsi, when what we really need is a nice clean glass of water.

[–] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 23 hours ago

It’s either that or many dems are ok with sitting back and acting helpless while they take their lobbying bribes and invest in the markets they regulate. Why change a system that personally benefits them so much?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They wouldn’t if we voted for progressives in the primaries. The 15% that shows up for congressional primaries are almost exclusively retirees. They always pick the most conservative Democrat. We should be voting twice every two years, not once every four, for national elections alone.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I agree. Everyone should be involved and informed on how to maximize the power of their vote wherever they live. Ideally, you get plugged in with someone like the DSA and vote their endorsements.

Sadly too many people fall for spoiler candidates which is part of the reason it's so hard to unseat an incumbent.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They're not even corporate captured, their policy stances are reverse Citizens United and Tax the Rich, they just have shit optics.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

That's their tepid messaging, not their platform or general direction of actual actions taken.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The faction that wants to do that is a minority even within the Democratic Party.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Even without the votes to make it happen without Republicans, the DNC has been introducing the ammendment constantly since the decision was first made.

If even 7 Republicans had crossed the isle it would have happened already.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven’t seen this at all, except referenced by many social media posts very similar to your own.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

You aren't aware of Kamala Harris distancing herself from her VP pick and campaigning with Liz Cheney?

Or the fact that she spent a large portion of her campaign funds trying to reach deep red districts ( https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/03/politics/harris-rural-red-county-strategy )?

You aren't aware that one thing Dem leadership was proudly championing was their extremely brutal immigration bill ( https://apnews.com/article/border-immigration-senate-vote-924f48912eecf1dc544dc648d757c3fe )?

Are you unaware of the "Abundance" movement which is just warmed over libertarianism ( https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/28/what-is-abundance-liberalism )?