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Why a professor of fascism left the US: ‘The lesson of 1933 is – you get out’ (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 8 months ago by HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works to c/news@lemmy.world

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She finds the whole idea absurd. To Prof Marci Shore, the notion that the Guardian, or anyone else, should want to interview her about the future of the US is ridiculous. She’s an academic specialising in the history and culture of eastern Europe and describes herself as a “Slavicist”, yet here she is, suddenly besieged by international journalists keen to ask about the country in which she insists she has no expertise: her own. “It’s kind of baffling,” she says.

In fact, the explanation is simple enough. Last month, Shore, together with her husband and fellow scholar of European history, Timothy Snyder, and the academic Jason Stanley, made news around the world when they announced that they were moving from Yale University in the US to the University of Toronto in Canada. It was not the move itself so much as their motive that garnered attention. As the headline of a short video op-ed the trio made for the New York Times put it, “We Study Fascism, and We’re Leaving the US”.

Starkly, Shore invoked the ultimate warning from history. “The lesson of 1933 is: you get out sooner rather than later.” She seemed to be saying that what had happened then, in Germany, could happen now, in Donald Trump’s America – and that anyone tempted to accuse her of hyperbole or alarmism was making a mistake. “My colleagues and friends, they were walking around and saying, ‘We have checks and balances. So let’s inhale, checks and balances, exhale, checks and balances.’ I thought, my God, we’re like people on the Titanic saying, ‘Our ship can’t sink. We’ve got the best ship. We’ve got the strongest ship. We’ve got the biggest ship.’ And what you know as a historian is that there is no such thing as a ship that can’t sink.”

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[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If all the good guys leave then you lose your country though

What if everyone just left Poland during ww2? There wouldn't be a Poland today

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 8 months ago

Nah, the Polish resistance was slaughtered by the Soviets anyways:

Most soldiers of the Home Army (including those who took part in the Warsaw Uprising) were persecuted after the war; captured by the NKVD or UB political police. They were interrogated and imprisoned on various charges, such as that of fascism.[226][227] Many of them were sent to Gulags, executed or disappeared.

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Poland remained occupied for 45 years after WW2 and was forcibly "shifted" to the West causing millions of Polish people to be deported from their homes in the East.

The best decision any Pole could have made for themselves, their family and even their country was to flee. You won't do anything for Poland if you die as a slave in Siberia.