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[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Iran is a great example to bring up when tankies insist that starting a revolution is always a great idea and always makes things better.

Iran used to be a democracy, but the party that won their last election ran on the promise that they'd nationalise their oil industry. This upset the British oil company that owned all the oil infrastructure in Iran, so the British and American governments led a coup to install a dictator friendly to their interests. The Shah was a very unpleasant leader whose main priorities were repressing his opponents and trying to make the country look rich and western, e.g. by banning religious dress and spending loads of money on buying Concorde aircraft.

Eventually, a coalition of groups, mainly various flavours of leftist and religious entities, started a revolution that overthrew the Shah. Unfortunately, once the Shah had been deposed, the largest religious faction had all the leftists immediately assassinated before a new government could be formed, and then exploited the power vacuum to install an authoritarian theocracy. For a lot of people, this made things even worse. The consequences for disagreeing with the government were still torture and/or death, but the things you were forbidden from doing were different, e.g. religious dress switched from being banned to being mandatory.

Unsurprisingly, Cowbee disagrees (based on an argument we had where he carefully destroyed any respect I might have had for his opinion) - there were leftists participating in the Iranian Revolution, so it must be a Marxist/Leninist utopia where everyone's happy with everything all the time.