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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The flotilla was told several times to turn around or be detained. They decided to not turn around and continued on their intended course to breach the naval blockade.

According to international maritime law Israel can intercept and detain before they enter.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Notice you never said they did breach the blockade which btw by international law they have to be given time and allowed to leave even if they enter without permission which they didn't do nor is Israel claiming they did.

Intercept and detain yes, board, seizur, deport and treat as their own... No because duh.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just like police can arrest you before you commit a crime, if you loudly and repeatedly proclaim the intention to commit it.

They were asked repeatedly to change course and refused.

Boarding, capturing the ship, confiscating cargo, and holding crew is exactly what international maritime law says is legal and customary in such situations like a blockade.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A. Jurisdiction. B. You're confusing ras with PC , you need pc for arrest you need ras to detain.

Because they don't have to, they're well outside the blockade and Israel doesn't own the ocean.

No, international law says a ship entering a blockade illegally can be boarded and detained after they've been given a chance to leave the area.... If they have to be given a chance to leave you can't steal their property and kidnap their crew, that's a crime.

Read the law and don't double post the same thing to me please.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They were given plenty of warnings and chances to leave the area.

A belligerent warship sailing on the high seas had the right to visit and search all merchant vessels

https://openyls.law.yale.edu/bitstream/handle/20.500.13051/8684/43_101YaleLJ893_1991_1992_.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They never entered an exclusion zone, Israel essentially said leave the region which is illegal.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I literally cited that high seas are okay if the course of the ship is clearly intending to breach the blockade.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You just didn't read it.

Your own source says visit and search, not capture and take as a prize, you'll notice that's reserved for combatant ships not neutrals outside of the exclusion zone.

Similarly the source your source cites specifically and in multiple lays or that humanitarian aid is a different beast and indeed blocking aid makes a blockade illegal.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well the aid isn’t being blocked.

The flotilla also didn’t agree to stop and search, but had to be boarded and commandeered.

The flotilla could have sailed to Ashdod port and unload their aid there for further delivery on land.

Blockade running is serious business. Can’t let civilians simply sail straight into a combat zone in a foreign country either.

Pretty ludicrous to expect that.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

It is. Did their ship get to shore, are their doctors doing doctor things in hospital (tents) in Gaza? Journalists doing journalism on the ground? No? Then they are preventing aid. Blockades are for security, what security risk is it to Israel for these people to get there on a ship Israel themselves searched and found no contraband nor combatants? None?

That's how a blockade works. You even sourced your own contradiction, the blockade *must" be maintained by force a blockade that isn't adequately enforced is not a blockade. You announce intention slow to boarding speed and make way to your destination until ordered to slow and be boarded to enter.

Yes, Israel specifically has not accused them of that nor charged them with anything that could be construed as such.

Can’t let civilians simply sail straight into a combat zone in a foreign country either.

You yourself provided the source that says they can be boarded and searched, at no point does it say they can be barred entry nor taken as prize when on humanitarian mission.

You'd cheer a hospital ship being seized, the doctors deported and they're supplies seized?

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 3 days ago

No they can't especially when the blockade is illegal