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That's exactly what happened, blockade borders have to be announced and ships have to be allowed time to leave the area. Israel left their blockade and kidnapped people aboard a ship they did not allow to leave an area they weren't in.
Once they breach the blockade yes arguably though with only aid that gets more complex. Essentially aid entry is allowed so long as you agree to security arrangements that are both reasonable and lawful. That could mean Israel could board and search, or doesn't mean they can blockade all aid to starve a population which is specifically and in multiple very very illegal.
https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/blockade
Their sources section is awash with good relevant information and specifically findings on the last Israeli famous Israeli blockade and subsequent boarding (and death of iirc 9) which was found to be a legal blockade so long as the purpose was not starvation and aid could enter with security arrangements.
So... according to the link you've provided Israel is actually required to board the ship or they can no longer prevent shipments of weapons coming from Iran?
Has there been any indication these flotilla activists attempted to make such security arrangements with Israel?
Correct to an extent, the accepted meaning is that they must agree to security measures to pass through. It is not and never has been a way to willfully prevent aid and aide staff into combat zones.
They weren't in a blockaded zone as far as I'm aware, Israel only says they were approaching and providing intented destination as you must when attempting to pass through a blockade.
Even ignoring that they must be allowed to leave even if they enter the blockaded area without permission, it isn't a seize your property and imprison your crew for being in the general area openly providing intent kinda thing.
Israel has told the flotilla repeatedly they can deliver the aid through the proper channels and the port of Ashdod.
The small amount of captured aid from the freedom flotilla is being delivered to Gaza by Israel at the moment.
Correct, they hadn't entered the area yet though so they technically heeded their warning.
Stolen, if you take something from someone and dispense it as your own you're guilty of theft and conversion something they say Hamas does with aid. And moreover delivering aid doesn't negate the whole unlawful boarding, seizure and forcible human trafficking thing.
You don’t need to actually rob someone for the police to arrest you, if you loudly proclaim your intent and don’t stop.
Confiscating ship and cargo, and holding the crew is perfectly legal under international maritime law for blockade runners.
Israel said the tiny amount of aid the flotilla brought would be delivered on to Gaza.
You do actually. They need pc for arrest, they need reasonable articulable suspicion to detain, your simply confusing or conflating the two. Similarly a police officer needs jurisdiction, Israel doesn't have jurisdiction outside of the blockade or territorial waters.
To run a blockade you actually need to enter it, at anchor in international water after declaring your intent is quite literally the textbook reaction to a blockade and specifically to enter one legally.
Israel also says it's ok to run over people with tanks so maybe Israel is full of shit and you should trust third parties over the most active belligerent. FYI Hitler tried to say invading Poland for security reasons was legal, turns out no but Israel decided to quite literally pull a Hitler.
Stop cucking for authoritarians bud.
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Keywords warship and belligerent. They're neither a belligerent nor is it a warship.
Israel‘s Navy is the belligerent warship. Flotilla is the merchant.
A. Where do you see detain, seize, kidnap and deportation from a state they never intended to enter? Nowhere? Because it isn't legal.
B. Yes Israel is the warship. No they're a humanitarian ship which is specifically allowed by international law so long as they agree to security measures like..... A visit and search. As an aside a merchant is involved in commerce ie. Trade. Humanitarians are the ideological antithesis of Marchants.
C. You seem to think they can exert a total blockade which is illegal, your own source cites the 2019 decision that the 2019 blockade was legal specifically because it did not bar aid.
Read the whole linked paper and you will see that detaining ship, cargo, and crew is legal if they refuse to turn around.
You might not be aware, but Israel has been allowing in aid for a while now. There is no total blockade.
Look up definition of merchant ship. Sure you might qualify them as a pleasure ship instead.
Combatants and neutral ships that breach exclusion, again Israel isn't even claiming that's what happened so why are you?
I'm not because they haven't, there's a man made famine at the moment hence all the starving children.
USCG merchant definition:
It is not involved in trade nor available for hire. You should read once ever.