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You're a Nazi regardless if you believe that. But also no doesn't work like that. That's a pretty dramatic take. He's a drugged out idiot. His salute bullshit was trolling at the worst. Let him fund things. You don't need to invite him into your house for a beer. The actual Nazis are in government right now in key positions hiring strategically. We're so far up shits Creek. It's just like any of you fucking people are funding anything on the left.
How about we just tax him instead of acting like quislings?
WW2 reference? Or WWZ reference?
The former. I read WWZ but never watched the movie or played the game.
You're not giving him anything. He's paying. How does that make you the quisling. If you're using WWII knowledge. That was is fillled with examples of strategy over some made up head up our ass moral superiority. Take advantage especially capital in a capitalist world. Especially a capitalist with massive signal boosting capabilities. Tired of fucking losing with you people.
This is the most neolib response I've ever read.
The fucking world is burning and I partially blame the left for ineffective and incompetent strategies and ideals. In my life, the left has a decent hold on things. Every year things improved bit by bit. But then the Internet came and it became clearer and clearer things changed. Instead of adsorption adapting the left just lost and continued to lose and never once has been critical of why they have been losing. It's always how others are just dumb or rich.
So you want to double down on neoliberalism, which is mainly the reason why Dems keep losing? You're as much as a genius as Musk.
Lol they're not losing because of neoliberalism. They're losing because the left is no longer effective as a group and Democrats are closer to Republicans but that's only because they're allowed to be by the people. Which goes back to the left as people are just ineffective at what they try to accomplish.
And by kowtowing to Musk, you're going to get much more of the same thing. Again, doubling down on Neoliberalism is what's going to make Dems lose. Like how the fuck are you not getting this? You sound like Schumer and Co.
Where did I say kowtowing.
Good job on ignoring everything else and hyperfixating on one word. You're not a serious person. You can kindly fuck off now.
That's a critical part of the argument
You seem to be mistaking the Democrats for "the left" when they are in fact a party of right-wing moderates.
I'd advise looking up Douglas McCarthy for some historical perspective on why there is no "left wing" in American politics.
No I'm not. You people are like lemmings. One of you says a thing and then that's like your go to retort. Need like a David Attenborough for the digital age that can see these copy paste retorts in the wild and categorize them all.
I'm well aware they're not the left. But I'm a political climate where there's Republicans and Democrats you don't have many options.
If someone tries to you into a false dichotomy, the correct move is to call them out.
If you want to comply with a political party that you yourself said "sucks", that's your perogative. I'll be over here with everyone else whom the Democrats have failed to represent.
Well maybe that is the reason both political parties have moved further and further to the right
The reason they're both moving to the right is that they are both right-wing parties, beholden to the same capitalist interests.
That's what a lot of you keep telling yourselves to self soothe all the failures
There's always excuses. But the fact is the left lost the plot a long time ago.
Hey, here is another example. The left can't ever set it self up for success. Chase all the money and power away. Then wonder why there's been a steady decline.
https://lemmy.world/post/31156021
Your logic doesn't explain why that trend has persisted since these two parties were founded. Much easier just to wave the whole issue away by blaming the people who aren't represented by the two-party system, right? They should change their politics to match the party and not the other way around, right?
Depends, is he going to put out a press release and leverage his "donation" to whitewash his reputation or is it going to be anonymous and with no strings attached?
That's on us and the Democrats. The Democrats probably will but who cares, they're fucking garbage anyways. Are you about to suck him off or anyone else? Probably not.
But does he want in and can fund lots of shit. Fuck yea he can. Operation paperclip his ass. Bring him in. Have him donate to Harvard, fund some Mercs to get aid into Palestine. Hell he is a troll, have him buy all the properties around Trump's properties and build them higher than his. Who fucking cares. Capital is good. Capital does things. We've already lost everything. Take the W when we can.
Nah, IMO the Democrats are shitty enough as it is without the world's richest zit getting involved.
Yea they suck. And he is a zit. But also rich.
Being rich makes all of his motives and desires suspect, if he told me the sky was blue then I'd assume he pulled some kind of Lex Luthor shit and turned it purple and green until I could check for myself.
That's not the kind of person we want running the country. In fact, that is the kind of person who should be kept very far away from the political process except when it's investigating reports of malfeasance at his companies.
The problem is that if he funds things he's going to trying to influence things to go to the right. He hates "woke", believes white genocide is a threat, believes in suppression of free speech, hates regulation, etc..
I don't think he believes any of those things. He's a capitalist. He doesn't care because those are rules. Rules do not apply to the rich like him. They're just pieces on a game board they move around. He wants attention. Take advantage. Convince him to aid Palestine and they'll all be eating cyber trucks in a week.
He absolutely believes in those things, and has shown multiple times he's willing to light his money on fire to support his ideals. He's idealistic (adjacent to the neo-fascist Dark Enlightenment movement), and not just simply motivated by wealth.
As a believer of white genocide there's no way we can convince him to aid Palestine. Supporting Ukraine again, maybe.
I think guys like him can be convinced to action with some very petty motivations. But we just need methods to motivate
Imagine being so stupid you can't differentiate a nazi from a nazi. Good thing you're not in politics, champ.
Hand waving a hand wave.. I did Nazi that coming.
Don't care end of the day. The way you all get wrapped up over shit that doesn't matter is crazy. The guy is trying to be 4chan irl. You people call everybody Nazis. He's just a troll. He doesn't have enough moral conviction to be a Nazi. He's just a drug addict
None of that is a good look for Democrats.
Elon isn't a democrat
The article is akout whether the Democratic Party should try to "win" Elon back.