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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 141 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Putin will never stop being a war criminal until the day he dies. If he takes over all of Ukraine, he will move to Moldova then Georgia then Latvia then Estonia and so on.

The moment this war ends, the Russian Federation will collapse. People forget but Russia has collapsed twice in the last century by doing the same things it's doing now.

It collapsed the first time when the out of touch tyrannical Tsarist government dragged the country into a needless war (WWI) while the country was going through a crises. The country collapsed and formed the Soviet Union.

It collapsed a second time when the out of touch tyrannical communist government dragged the country into a needless war (Soviet invasion of Afghanistan) while the country was going through a crises. The country collapsed and formed the Russian Federation.

Now the same thing is happening. The country has an out touch tyrannical dictator that dragged the country into a needless war during a time of crises. Once the war is over the country will revolt and collapse once again.

[–] klay1@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Tsarist government dragged the country into a needless war

I think Imperial Germany did the most part of that, while Russia wasn't starting WW1. They did however heat up everything by attacking small neighbors, yes.

tyrannical communist government

Its important to say that it wasn't really communist. They called themselves communist to take over from the revolution easier. They were mostly just authoritarian, while Stalin completely hollowed out the soviet republic functions. There was no republic, council, democracy or communism. Just harsh disctatorship.

Sadly, what most think about when hearing communist or soviet, is the latter part and everything Stalin did. Oversimplified, communist means all things should belong to the people (as a people), not to a few people or any other power. And that's never what Stalin did or even intended.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, it seems authoritarianism is bad. Hopefully Russians will figure that out the next go around.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As American example shows us in real time, it's not something you just "figure out" once. Democracy requires society to always win in eternal struggle against human nature.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ronald Reagan was a terrible politician, but he absolutely nailed this quote:

Perhaps you and I have lived too long with this miracle to properly be appreciative. Freedom is a fragile thing and it’s never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by way of inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. And those in world history who have known freedom and then lost it have never known it again.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He was a great politician. He was a terrible human being.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago

No self-awareness in how he helped setup being one generation away from the extinction of freedom.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago

"and then it got worse"

[–] xohshoo@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Russia has treaties with Britain since like 1904 that obligated it to engage in WWI. Thats how the murder of a Serbian devolved into a world war

Outcome of leading to the downfall of the regime regardless, it was a little different than Afghanistan or Ukraine

[–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not to be thát person, but Archduke Franz Ferdinand was not a Serb, he was Austrian. Even though Austria-Hungary did annex Bosnia and Herzegovina in the late 19th century, Franz Ferdinand was not born there - in fact he was born before the annexation.

Unless you mean his killer, but then your wording is a little off and I would say "murder BY a Serbian." Even so, the ethnicity of the murderer wasn't really as important as his target. ;)

[–] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago

Thats how the murder of a Serbian devolved into a world war

Archduke Franz Ferdinand was Austrian.

[–] Fritee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

They also were figthing and got defeated by Japan right before that - did contribute to the downfall a little

[–] saimen@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

The second collapse was to a great part also due to chernobyl. It's economic consequences often get overlooked. They had to use a LOT of resources and military personnel to contain it and preventing half of eastern Europe becoming unliveable wastelands.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

technically you don't stop being anything when you die except for alive.

asshole when you're alive? asshole when you're dead.

you do lose the ability to be anything but that after you doe though.

at least until you're forgotten... which he did solidify his place in history as one of the weakest bitches in post cold war Russian history.

[–] BlessedDog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

We won't budge, let them come!