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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_Problem
Ran into low-stakes, small-scale versions of this in Javascript "live collections." CSS-based (CSS-like?) query selectors return one of JS's many Array-like object types. Just... so many partially-implemented Array variations. Anyway: Array.from( document.querySelectorAll( 'whatever' ) ) turns the initial auto-updating set into a more static list of elements.