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Quite a few people want to work together to solve the problem. But they have no access to the capital or the policy that created the problem.
All the turkeys agree that the Turkey Farmer is a big threat. But they're mostly busy just staying fed. They have no free time, no surplus income, and no material capacity for resistance. If the Turkey Farmer sees a turkey getting too far out of line, its killed and eaten. So nobody wants to stick their necks out.
That's an absurd and self-defeating take. "If you want to fight climate change, fucking go kill yourself" isn't a rallying cry anyone is going to get behind and it certainly isn't going to cut carbon emissions at a global scale. FFS, go through Florida and straight up do a holocaust of every suburban neighborhood on the peninsula. See if that shifts the needle on the emissions by any of the LLM Factories even one iota. See if it cuts the volume of concrete being poured in Dubai or the natural gas pumped out of the Permian Basin. See how much of the Amazon grows back - or hell, how much of the Everglades for that matter - when you're done.
Nevermind that the only people we're doing genocide against are the global poor. It's the Gaza refugees who are getting purged, not the Hotwives of Atlanta, Georgia. Russian and Ukrainian lumpen proles are lining up to shoot one another, not Berlin industrialists or London bankers or Moscow Oligarchs. The folks getting rounded up and executed in Sri Lanka and Kashmir and Myanmar aren't the ones emitting all the waste.
All these "Exterminate the Brutes" insinuations achieve is another round of capitalist-orchestrated eugenics campaigns. If you can't see a path towards the working class living within their ecological means, you'll never mobilize a labor powered environmentalist movement against the folks profiting off ecological destruction.
You’re exactly right: We are entirely fucked no matter what we do, because even if every American dropped dead tomorrow it would still not be enough to stop climate change.
Modern industrial countries exist with far lower emissions per person. We're not screwed no matter what. We can - and other countries have - modernized to get under the line.
You don't need to die to get your emissions under post-90s emission rates.
Far lower emissions per person, but far greater emissions overall because there’s so many more people.
And we’re gonna blow right by 1.5 degrees and maybe hit 2 or 2.5 degrees. That’s pretty fucked.
Aspiring to the emissions rate of Qatar because so few people live there is a call for genocide not environmental reform.
Not thanks to India, where 1.4B people have managed to keep their gross emissions rate well under their 350M peers in the United States. But for some reason Americans will tell you the solution is to nuke Delhi to cover the balance.
Nuking Delhi is stupid.
We should nuke LA.
Or make 30% of Americans live on under $4 a day. That would reduce emissions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2025_Southern_California_wildfires
Mother Nature beat you to it. Surely this means we'll see large emissions reductions in California, right?
The fires didn’t kill enough of the invasive primate species to make a difference.
Then again, like you said, killing any number of these pests won’t make a dent anyway.