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Police said a suspect was in custody after the shooting near the Capital Jewish Museum

A suspect is in custody after shooting dead two Israeli embassy staff outside a Jewish museum in Washington on Wednesday night.

The gunman, named by police as Elias Rodriguez, 30, of Chicago, approached a group of four people leaving an event at the Capital Jewish Museum and opened fire, killing Yaron Lischinsky and Sarah Milgrim.

Metropolitan police chief Pamela Smith said the shooter had been pacing outside the museum, which is steps away from the FBI’s field office, before the shooting.

After killing the pair, who officials said were a couple, he walked inside, where event security detained him. The suspect yelled: “Free, free Palestine,” after he was arrested, police said.

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[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You aren't over reacting. It's a massive false equivalence comparing what Israel has done against the murder of two individuals. The guy that got murdered isn't Israel. He's a person with opinions, right or wrong. He got murdered for a few tweets and an affiliation with Israel. He's not a combatant, but a civilian. Same for his wife. People justifying these murders are flat out wrong, and there's no place in America for ideological murders. In order to have a system where free speech is protected, you can't allow people to be murdered for their views. There is no defending these murders or trying to justify them.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

a massive false equivalence comparing what Israel has done against the murder of two individuals.

People aren't trying to equivocate the two, that would be insulting, not only to the people who were murdered, but to the tens of thousands of people being killed in Palestine.

The guy that got murdered isn't Israel. He's a person with opinions, right or wrong. He got murdered for a few tweets and an affiliation with Israel.

I mean he's a representative of the state, which is why this is a politically motivated murder.

He's not a combatant, but a civilian. Same for his wife. People justifying these murders are flat out wrong

Explanations aren't justifications, just because people understand and even agree with the motivations of the killer doesn't mean the agree with how he acted upon them.

I find the cries for the sanctity of protecting civilians to be pretty meek considering the state these civilians represent have overwhelmingly killed more civilians than armed combatants.

This is the inherent problem with a state targeting civilian populations, it provokes violence upon your own civilians.

In order to have a system where free speech is protected, you can't allow people to be murdered for their views.

Another person misunderstanding the Constitution.....Free speech doesn't protect you from the public's reaction to your speech, it guarantees protection from the government targeting you for your speech.

This isn't an example of someone's free speech being violated. An actual example would be students being arrested for their protest about Israels actions in Gaza.

There is no defending these murders or trying to justify them.

Again, understanding a motive isn't justifying. No one said they agreed that those people deserved to be murdered , you're just moralizing.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seems like a lot of victim blaming in here. It can be very simple. Don't murder people you disagree with. Also, free speech needs to be protected culturally as well, and not just through the government. But the government must also protect free speech, and that includes protecting people from others. There doesn't need to be a discussion about understanding motives at all. It's wrong and needs to be condemned, full stop. Otherwise you don't have a free country. You can't hand wave it away or shrug just because you understand their motive.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seems like a lot of victim blaming in here. It can be very simple. Don't murder people you disagree with.

Moralizing once again, no one here advocated for murdering anyone.

Also, free speech needs to be protected culturally as well, and not just through the government.

The idea of freedom speech is a constitutional right, it's not a social mores. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, you are just trying to erect a strawman argument.

doesn't need to be a discussion about understanding motives at all. It's wrong and needs to be condemned, full stop.

Lol, kinda ironic someone who is whining about free speech is trying to get people to stop talking about someone's motive. We can discuss whatever we want, if you don't like it you can leave. Hypocrite.

Otherwise you don't have a free country. You can't hand wave it away or shrug just because you understand their motive.

Lol, free speech means stop talking about something I don't like because of freedoms......You are a moron.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Free speech means being able to say and support things you believe in without the threat of being murdered for it. Any sympathy for the murderer undermines free speech and democratic society. This is not complicated...

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Free speech means being able to say and support things you believe in without the threat of being murdered for it.

According to whom? You can't just redefine legal terms to suit your argument. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, again this is just a strawman argument.

You are already legally protected from being murdered for what you say, last time I checked murder is still illegal.

Any sympathy for the murderer undermines free speech and democratic society

First of all....who was expressing sympathy for the murderer? Understanding someone's motive isn't the same as being sympathetic towards something. The CIA has reported that 9/11 was the result of political blowback from our previous involvement in Afghanistan. By your logic the CIA is sympathetic towards the terrorist responsible for 9/11?

Secondly, you don't get to dictate what people get to feel or talk about. Especially while hypocritically accusing people of undermining the freedom of speech for their beliefs or statements.

Lastly you have no fucking clue what the freedom of speech clause of Constitution actually means, because as I have previously stated..... you are a moron.

This is not complicated...

I'm pretty sure tying shoe laces is complicated for you, this has obviously gone over your head.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm addressing the victim blaming apologists in this thread. If that isn't you then carry on.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You were the one making accusations about me specifically. Now that your argument completely fell apart, you were talking about someone else? What a fucking loser, go kick rocks.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It sounded like maybe you were secretly happy about the murders, or sympathized a little bit. If not, that's my mistake and I apologize.