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Crab, we've been over this before, EVERY MONTH from becoming the candidate to the election Harris was advocating for an immediate cease fire, the release of hostages, and a two-state solution. Over, and over again.
Polar opposite of Trumps “sweep them out and take over.”
July: https://www.the-independent.com/tv/news/kamala-harris-says-two-state-solution-is-the-only-path-after-meeting-with-netanyahu-b2586161.html
August: https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/23/politics/gaza-israel-harris-convention-speech/index.html
September: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-harris-says-two-state-solution-end-of-israel-hamas-war-is-crucial
October: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/harris-dodges-direct-question-on-palestinian-deaths-calls-for-2-state-solution-during-cnn-town-hall/3372480
Could she PERSONALLY negotiate it as VP? No, the VP has no real power unless the Senate is stuck on a 50/50 vote.
Could she PERSONALLY negotiate it as a candidate for President? No, US civilians are blocked from engaging in diplomatic action.
So a) not a function of her job, b) not a function of her candidacy.
ALL she could do was talk about what she would do if elected 1) Immediate cease fire, 2) Hostage release, 3) Two-State solution. July, August, September, October.
The "BUH BUH GENOCIDE!!!" crowd completely ignored what she was saying because they didn't want to hear it, they are so crawled up inside their own assholes they can't hear anything.
Harris is not Biden. Again, read her statements, month after month, after month. July, August, September, October.
She was far more likely to treat Netanyahu as the dishonest broker that he is. Biden was blinded by the history of Israel, Harris did not have that same handicap.
HER handicap was not being able to publicly diverge from Biden policy, she should have, but couldn't afford to alienate the Biden machine.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5191087-harris-trump-biden-harris/
So she publicly stated that Israel should stop, would fight to stop it more than Biden, and was pro-Palestine.
Right?
Exactly, she wanted a two-state solution and argued for it on multiple occasions as cited above.
Trump wanted waterfront real estate.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-gaza-riviera-echoes-kushner-waterfront-property-dreams-2025-02-05/
It doesn't matter what she SAY she want if she commited to sending bombs to one party.
Look mate I know it must be hard for you to realize you don't have a voice in this but maybe you should direct your outrage at the people in charge instead of policing what can be said about your favorite genociding party.
The people in charge are the Israelis and they absolutely need their asses hauled up before a war crimes tribunal in the Hague.
Blame the correct people. Israel isn't using US sniper bullets to kill kids, they have plenty of their own.
She said she wanted a two state solution.
She did fuck all to work towards it. The "two state solution" is a trope to enable Israel and has been long since before the genocide. It is not unique to the US. We hear it in Germany all the time followed by crickets when asked what the government wants to do, to actually move towards it. Fact is Harris denied an advocacy group for Palestinian rights to even speak at the DNC event, while Zionist lobby groups were welcomed to speak. It shows that the "two state solution" of Harris means to not even let Palestinians or people advocating for their rights speak, while amplifying Israeli propaganda.
Anyone who is serious about a two state solution would amplify Palestinian voices and provide the means to establish a Palestinian state while gutting Israels abilities to sabotage that, first of all by cutting all military and financial aid and enacting an arms and dual use embargo.
Harris has been lying the same lies like the US and other western countries governments have been lying for decades now. It is as obvious as the guys with the clowns mask and duffel bags entering a jewelry store not going to be there to make balloon animals.
Again, the VP HAS NO REAL POWER. The only role the VP has that has any effect whatsoever is when the Senate is stalled at a 50/50 tie. Other than that, the role is largely ceremonial.
So going into the election you had 2 candidates:
Who argued repeatedly for a cease fire, hostage release and two state solution for 4 consecutive months.
Who argued that the only thing Israel was doing wrong was not killing people fast enough.
We elected candidate #2.
When she was presidential candidate she could have allowed people speaking about Palestine at the DNC event. She chose against it. It is that low of a bar she chose to ran into instead of stepping over it. Not even letting people speak about the atrocities that are committed. Not even letting them say that Palestinians are also humans who deserve to life and that the US should not aid in annihilating them.
Also when she became presidential candidate she could have said she will do things different form Biden, instead of emphasizing that she will do more of the same. She could have told the DNC to stop arming Israel immediately and demand a full ceasefire and access for humanitarian aid. This would also have been nothing more than demanding that the US administration should uphold the law of the US, which prohibits arming people attacking and interfering with US aid. She could have threatened to step down, saying she would not be the face of more atrocities.
She didn't do any of that. She chose to repeat the same tired rhetoric while ensuring that not only the genocide machine stays well oiled, but the propaganda machine in the US too.
She could have, and watched the $100M AIPAC dollars turn against her in a heartbeat. She's not stupid.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/20/pro-israel-groups-gaza-us-elections
The Palestinians are on the right side of history, but they don't have the money to run a political campaign. AIPAC does. Not saying it's right or preferable, it's simply the fact of American politics.
So she took the AIPAC money and lost. Instead of taking side with the people and have millions of people come out in support for her, which would have been worth more than anything AIPAC could afford.
She would not have had millions of people supporting her, she would have lost millions of Jewish voters and lost even harder.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/harris-says-she-wont-change-us-policy-on-arming-israel-stresses-need-for-hostage-deal/
Liar liar pants on fire
Weapons shipments aren't part of the deal, as I said, she repeatedly called for a cease fire, a hostage release, and a two-state solution.
Israel has the right to defend itself from repeated attacks by Iran, we will continue supplying weapons to do that, what Israel chooses to do with those supplies is on them, not us.
"No no trust us, I'm against Israel's genocide, I'm just not gonna use any influence to stop it, I'm not going to make it part of my campaign, I'm going to tell people protesting the genocide to shut up and that I'm speaking. I am clearly anti-genocide, just let me keep with Biden's pro-genocide polices."
Whether you "believe" it or not is irrelevant. It was her position as stated publicly multiple times. That problem is yours, not hers.
In the end though, the desire to "save" Gaza will result in the extermination of Gaza because you simply wouldn't listen. Good jorb!
If the dems had not known they could count on their base for being cowards, they might have considered the electoral implication of bombing civilians.
For what it worth i don't even think you're an asshole. You have been propagandized. Deprogram yourself man idk
https://www.timesofisrael.com/harris-says-she-wont-change-us-policy-on-arming-israel-stresses-need-for-hostage-deal/
Liar liar pants on fire
Weapons shipments aren't part of the deal, as I said, she repeatedly called for a cease fire, a hostage release, and a two-state solution.
Israel has the right to defend itself from repeated attacks by Iran, we will continue supplying weapons to do that, what Israel chooses to do with those supplies is on them, not us.
And again, Harris is not Biden. Two different people.
4 consecutive months. Cease fire, hostage release, two state solution. Everything the anti-Genocide people wanted.
"Buh buh wE dOnT bElIeVe YoU!!!11!11"
And so we get Mr. "Do it faster, it's making you look bad."
Biden was NEVER selling weapons for genocide.
Biden believes, correctly, that Israel has the right to defend itself from repeated attacks by Iran, we will continue supplying weapons to do that, what Israel chooses to do with those supplies is on them, not us.
Should Biden have cut the supply when Israel proved to be a bad actor? Absolutely, but that doesn't change the fact that Israel, as a soverign nation, has the right to defend itself and the US will 100% support that as we always have.
What they are doing in Gaza is not defensive, it's absolutely offensive in every sense of the word, but that's on Israel, not Biden.
Tired of your repeated bullshit crab. I've explained my position thoroughly, sourced with links.
You've engaged in enough misinformation and repeated flame wars here. You're done now.
I'm saying Biden did not sell them weapons with the intention of committing genocide with them.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpvne94v1rdo
"The president has made clear Israel has a right to defend its citizens, consistent with international law and international humanitarian law, and to deter aggression from Iran and its proxy organisations.
"We will continue to provide the capabilities necessary for Israel's defence."
At no point, none, did Biden go "Sure, kill all the Gazans you want." That was never his intent.
Biden, naively, believed supplying the weapons with good intent, the defense of Israel, would result in them being used with good intent.
They weren't, but the bad intent is NOT why Biden supplied them.