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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

She was far more likely to treat Netanyahu as the dishonest broker that he is.

So she publicly stated that Israel should stop, would fight to stop it more than Biden, and was pro-Palestine.

Right?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Exactly, she wanted a two-state solution and argued for it on multiple occasions as cited above.

Trump wanted waterfront real estate.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-gaza-riviera-echoes-kushner-waterfront-property-dreams-2025-02-05/

[–] GoodWaterBottle@lemmus.org 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter what she SAY she want if she commited to sending bombs to one party.

Look mate I know it must be hard for you to realize you don't have a voice in this but maybe you should direct your outrage at the people in charge instead of policing what can be said about your favorite genociding party.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 42 minutes ago

The people in charge are the Israelis and they absolutely need their asses hauled up before a war crimes tribunal in the Hague.

Blame the correct people. Israel isn't using US sniper bullets to kill kids, they have plenty of their own.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

She said she wanted a two state solution.

She did fuck all to work towards it. The "two state solution" is a trope to enable Israel and has been long since before the genocide. It is not unique to the US. We hear it in Germany all the time followed by crickets when asked what the government wants to do, to actually move towards it. Fact is Harris denied an advocacy group for Palestinian rights to even speak at the DNC event, while Zionist lobby groups were welcomed to speak. It shows that the "two state solution" of Harris means to not even let Palestinians or people advocating for their rights speak, while amplifying Israeli propaganda.

Anyone who is serious about a two state solution would amplify Palestinian voices and provide the means to establish a Palestinian state while gutting Israels abilities to sabotage that, first of all by cutting all military and financial aid and enacting an arms and dual use embargo.

Harris has been lying the same lies like the US and other western countries governments have been lying for decades now. It is as obvious as the guys with the clowns mask and duffel bags entering a jewelry store not going to be there to make balloon animals.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

She did fuck all to work towards it.

Again, the VP HAS NO REAL POWER. The only role the VP has that has any effect whatsoever is when the Senate is stalled at a 50/50 tie. Other than that, the role is largely ceremonial.

So going into the election you had 2 candidates:

  1. Who argued repeatedly for a cease fire, hostage release and two state solution for 4 consecutive months.

  2. Who argued that the only thing Israel was doing wrong was not killing people fast enough.

We elected candidate #2.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

When she was presidential candidate she could have allowed people speaking about Palestine at the DNC event. She chose against it. It is that low of a bar she chose to ran into instead of stepping over it. Not even letting people speak about the atrocities that are committed. Not even letting them say that Palestinians are also humans who deserve to life and that the US should not aid in annihilating them.

Also when she became presidential candidate she could have said she will do things different form Biden, instead of emphasizing that she will do more of the same. She could have told the DNC to stop arming Israel immediately and demand a full ceasefire and access for humanitarian aid. This would also have been nothing more than demanding that the US administration should uphold the law of the US, which prohibits arming people attacking and interfering with US aid. She could have threatened to step down, saying she would not be the face of more atrocities.

She didn't do any of that. She chose to repeat the same tired rhetoric while ensuring that not only the genocide machine stays well oiled, but the propaganda machine in the US too.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

She could have, and watched the $100M AIPAC dollars turn against her in a heartbeat. She's not stupid.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/20/pro-israel-groups-gaza-us-elections

The Palestinians are on the right side of history, but they don't have the money to run a political campaign. AIPAC does. Not saying it's right or preferable, it's simply the fact of American politics.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 41 minutes ago

So she took the AIPAC money and lost. Instead of taking side with the people and have millions of people come out in support for her, which would have been worth more than anything AIPAC could afford.

[–] GoodWaterBottle@lemmus.org 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

https://www.timesofisrael.com/harris-says-she-wont-change-us-policy-on-arming-israel-stresses-need-for-hostage-deal/

Pushed again on whether she would change the current policy regarding weapons shipments, Harris responded, “No” before quickly continuing her point about the need for a hostage deal.

Liar liar pants on fire

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 58 minutes ago

Weapons shipments aren't part of the deal, as I said, she repeatedly called for a cease fire, a hostage release, and a two-state solution.

Israel has the right to defend itself from repeated attacks by Iran, we will continue supplying weapons to do that, what Israel chooses to do with those supplies is on them, not us.