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Kids born today are going to grow up in a hellscape, grim climate study finds
(www.livescience.com)
this post was submitted on 15 May 2025
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Point me to a time in the past when there was no suffering please.
Around 4.5 billion years ago, at least on earth. The existence of suffering and its universality are good reasons for you to perpetuate it?
Existence is accompanied by suffering, yes. If you can't accept that, that's on you. If you wish for all life to cease because of your views, then you're the selfish one here.
Lol I accept that. although you seem to ignore it for your selfish reasons. My will is not important. I'm merely pointing the fact that your actions increase suffering for your own personal gain. Do with it what you will.
Edit - I'd also add that for many many poor creatures including humans, existence is not accompanied by suffering, but it is only suffering. You are delusional if you think you have the power to save your poor child from it
The vast majority of people (including yourself) seem to think that the suffering is worth putting up with for some strange reason though...
If life was nothing more than suffering then I don't think nearly as many people would have children. Fortunately many of us are able to get enough out of life to see it as being worthwhile. I'm sorry that's not the case for you.
You contradict yourself and make incorrect assumptions. My entire argument is to make the point that the suffering does not justify it. The majority does not hold my opinion. But I do agree it is stange to think it is justified.
I never said life is only suffering for everyone. Read my comments again. Also, my life is pretty good, I'm not complaining for myself, but for other voiceless souls. Are you able to see the world from a different point of view than your own? How the experience is like for others? From what you wrote I sincerely doubt that.
It is worthwhile for who? And who gets to decide? And can you guarantee your children it will be worth while? Can you guarantee it for all living creatures? It easy to talk when your life is full of privilege
Reproducing without control just cause you need purpose is morally wrong. Same as murdering someone for pleasure.
Enjoy you existence, hope you can live with the suffering you are causing and apathetic to. 🩷