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On any of the donation threads where it came up and he replied to it, the most he ever did was some half hearted corporate PR "apology" (ironic)

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[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

My warning was very pointed and specifically about rhetoric, not the actual underlying opinions.

Give me examples on why I shouldn’t use the term “cult” here, yet how it’s okay for other users of this instance to claim a large amount of the British population is in a cult simply because of their religious beliefs..

The trans cult thing is a common talking point by transphobes to discredit the idea of being trans, that it's nothing more than brainwashing. I really don't know how you expect "I don’t know who’s leading this movement, but it starts to seem like some weird cult" to come across, but it reads like you saying anyone with a more progressive opinion to you is in a cult. It's very easy for someone to make the jump from that to believing you think trans movement more broadly is a cult, especially given you're a transmedicalist.

Also, that comment by Hossenfeffer is clearly made in jest and, unlike trans people, Christians aren't a marginalised identity in Britain.

Thirdly, this place is where I get to hear the other side. Do you really want to force me to use an echo chamber by banning me?

No, that's why I gave a warning. I don't think you appreciate how much more leeway you get because I understand you come from a conservative background. You constantly say you're bad with this and when I try to clear up the boundaries of what I consider acceptable, you accuse me of engaging in cult-like tactics. Maybe I was too curt, but I'm trying to help you. I'm trans myself, so I hope you can appreciate why I'm sensitive to this stuff.

There’s no need to read between the lines here. I barely know what “dogwhistling” is nevermind people accusing me of doing it.

I'd really appreciate if you did read up on it. I can only moderate based on what you write, not what's in your head. I and others can't tell the difference between genuine ignorance or pretending to be ignorant to sneak bigotry in under the radar. The Green Party has a good page on trans/queer dogwhistles.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Thank you for clearing this up. I would prefer an approach like this rather than a straight ban threat. I can understand how you misunderstood what I meant by "cult" now, I should have been more clear. I'm talking about the cancel culture aspect. I should have been more clear about that, and I apologise. The movement I was referring to was the movement of people who want to silence people who disagree with them surrounding this topic. If someone believes in full recognition and inclusion of trans women as cis women, for example, but wouldn't call for the death or claiming people they disagree with deserve to die, that's not what I was referring to (Again, I should have been more clear). I think the context of the thread helps, including where my comment I was quoting and in response to someone telling someone else "you don't deserve to breathe" which I stand by, the treatment of that user and hate of that sense directed towards nutomic is disgusting.

Also, ty for the link!

Are the terms afab/amab still okay? I try and use them as opposed to "biological women" as I heard that one could be a dogwhistle before

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry if it came across that hostile, I tend to be snappy after waking up and we've had a lot of transphobia lately.

Are the terms afab/amab still okay? I try and use them as opposed to “biological women” as I heard that one could be a dogwhistle before

AFAB/AMAB are fine, encouraged even. 'Biological women' is generally used by gender critical types as a dog whistle to mean that only cis women are real women.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 11 months ago

That's okay. I hope you're getting on okay in the recent climate. Please be good to yourself.