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I keep seeing so many people who claim to be on the left saying Democrats could win if they just supported us. Which sounds great. But then one has to wonder. Have we shown them that? We need to be the ones to bring the fight to the democrats. We've passively and complacently let National parties consolidate power for Generations now. And yet we pretend to be confused of when they don't represent us for some reason.
As someone reasonably autistic that has to mask a significant amount to get through the day. I'm not candidate material. But I would I.T. the fuck out of shit for a local campaign willing to show local and National Democrats how to fight.
I love how the "you have to vote for us every time no matter how far to the right we go" wing of the party demands decades of patient voting for their complicit republican-lite candidates before they'll listen to their left, but they fall all over themselves trying to please republicans who will never vote for them.
You don't have to in state or local elections. I've always told people to vote for whoever stands the best chance of winning no matter what party they're from as long as they keep the fascist out. But when it comes to National presidential elections mathematically you have to. It's just a fact.
I'm going to repeat the point you ignored because you prefer to lecture people who voted like you wanted instead.
It does not matter how many times progressives hold their noses and vote republican-lite like you want. The party will NEVER look at their loyalty and decide to listen to them. NOT EVER. The entire "just vote and we'll listen, promise" thing has always been a filthy lie.
However, democrats seem willing to move to the right for absolutely no gain because the republicans whose votes they seek would rather vote for republicans. republicans don't need to patiently vote for people who hate them for decades for a false promise that the party will listen. The party does nothing but listen to republicans, who don't vote for democrats.
Now lecture me some more, but under no circumstances address my point.
As always, it's hilarious that you think everyone else is the one ignoring anything. That's a nice straw man built there and it's nothing I've ever espoused or championed. The simple fact is when it comes to National presidential elections it is unfortunately a binary choice and you do have to choose between fascist and fascist light. That or just accept that you're going to have fascist. That's the simple point you always ignore. Why we spend so much time lecturing you. When you just get all pissy about it I don't know. I guess it's fun sometimes.
While we must hold our noses and do this for national presidential elections. We've never had to and I've never advocated for doing that at the local and state level. In fact far from it. I constantly advocate for taking over State parties and building them up. Or building completely new state parties to run people at the state and local level. But that's what you always ignore.
Didn't say it was, though your refusal to address it is pointing in that direction.
Because "put in decades of work at the state level while we keep moving right on the national level" is not a realistic solution in the face of rapidly entrenching fascism.
I literally addressed it in the next paragraph practically what are you even on about.
Tell that to the unions that felt Carter hadn't done enough for them. Withholding their support and funding. They showed carter. He lost and the unions became irrelevant. And we had our first outright fascist in office with reagan. Tell that to all the people so uninfused with Al gore. He didn't excite them enough he didn't hold their hands enough despite having fantastic qualifications as a progressive and environmentalist. He just didn't motivate the people and so we got our second fascist with Bush Jr. I could go on I mean literally what happened with Hillary Clinton yes she wasn't inspirational no she wasn't great but by that time so much damage had been done she was the best we could get unfortunately. And people chose Trump. And on and on and on.
We've had 50 years of people like yourself ignorantly trying to change things from the top down and failing. Hurting all of us. You spend decades organizing it a state level. You aren't going to get this sort of s*** at the national level. That's the point. Yes you have to hold your nose in the meantime. While you're replacing all the jackasses that are the problem. But that is how you change it. Trying to force top-down change you're just going to keep empowering fascists. I hope you're enjoying the administration you helped.
Because people like you got everything they wanted at the national level and will fight your left and only your left to keep moving right.
Check out Rebellion PAC if you want to help bring democrats around to sensible policy and making sure it gets passed.
Very true. What irks me most about voters and politicians is the voters only complain about them during an election. We need constant pressure on them. Make them answer real questions.
Have you watched one of the presidential debate videos? The person asking questions is like, “what color is the sky?” And both parties start talking about taxes. We need some to say, “answer the fucking question,” and we need voters to refuse the candidates who cannot.
Yes we absolutely need an independent nonpartisan group like the League of Women Voters back. All these fake journalists fretting over access to fascists. Afraid to offend or contradict them don't serve anyone but the fascists.
And this is also why we need to tear down the National Party and build up local parties. That way when you're pissed with them you can go stand outside their office and raise hell. You don't have to hire someone to go to a Washington for you where all these guys are insulated
I simply cannot bear to watch the debates, ever. Not for decades now. Even the alleged 'highlights' are unendurable. The questions are imbecilic, the answers are rarely even answers, and by unanimous agreement of everyone involved, the questions that matter most are not allowed to be asked.
People were very outspoken about the whole supporting genocide thing. The party made sure to shut them out. People were also very outspoken about Biden being too senile to run again and the party instead gaslighted everyone with claiming that pointing out the most evident and obvious truth would in fact be a malicious scheme to help Trump. Only when it became impossible to lie about it for them, they quickly switched Harris in.
And when people pointed at the party loosing to Trump again, they came up with all sorts of reasonings including hating on the minorities that felt betrayed by the party for not being blindly loyal to them.
And now we are seeing them still supporting Trump in various ways and fighting teeth and nails to keep any progressives out of power in the party.
As long as you say you are willing to vote for them, they will not listen. They take your vote for granted and they rather help to turn the US into full fascism than listen to normal folks who don't want their life to become worse and worse every year to make some billionaires richer.