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Love to hear it! The sooner the U.S. empire collapses and destroys itself, the better off the rest of the world will be. Good riddance to the genocidal, slave owning, planet incinerating, resource hoarding, worker crushing cancer that the USA is and always has been. Fuck them and the Nazi boot-lickers that support them.
Which, like, I get, but some of us slave descendants ARE STILL HERE and are actively suffering. Its not like any country has given us refugee status.
Unfortunately if we burn you burn too. The united states will take everyone down with them
i feel you, but i do not see any reason to think that any of these bad things are inextricably linked to the United States, i.e., the Constitution. To me, the core of the Constitution seems to be very compatible with Love, although the authors tried to cripple that message to suit incompatible interests, e.g., slavery.
After reading some parts of the Constitution again, i was disappointed by the mention of "Aid and Comfort" until i realized that the Constitution indicates that treason implies "Aid and Comfort" or declaring war against the United States, not that said "Aid and Comfort" is necessarily treasonous, which would necessarily imply persecution of religions of unconditional Love; in being unconditional, after all, Love does not discriminate by affiliation or past actions.
i do approve characterizing implementations of the United States as being afflicted with truly horrible things, though. This implementation has always had fascist-adjacent elements and, hell, has gone from being on the path to being the Mother of Exiles to just being the mama of all strays. But such hatred, such dehumanization is not aligned with the liberal spirit of the Constitution.
i welcome any disagreement here, and you are free to ask for any clarification.
The US constitution explicity enshrines the right to enslave people. I know of no other constitution with such a stipulation. All of the other rights you mention go out the window when people can just straight up be enslaved.
Thank you.
i should have clarified that i was referring to the current incarnation of the Constitution, what with the amendments and all. The inclusion of slavery at all is horrible. i like non-cruel prison labor; anyone who is sincerely remorseful would love the chance to atone, but the labor must be voluntary. Compulsory anything is counter to Love. Punishment of any kind is counter to Love.
If you were thinking of the Thirteenth Amendment, then my only defense is that the Thirteenth Amendment does not specifically condone prison slavery, either, that prison slavery is undefined behavior, that the undefined behavior can serve as a means of easing people away from slavery, that, even with the exception, the Thirteenth Amendment did serve as a step in the right direction. The exception may be a compromise for people who wanted slavery for unconvicted and convicted people, thereby starting the process of easing into an incarnation which is free of anything resembling an endorsement of slavery of any kind.
In any case, an amendment to forbid all slavery is definitely in order and is thoroughly consistent with my understanding of the spirit of the Constitution.
@Ferrous@lemmy.ml
The great thing about the constitution is that it also has rules for how to fucking change it. That was one of earliest things that got changed.
It would be great if we had at any point actually made slavery illegal, instead of just adjusting the logistics.
So, despite its ability to "easily" be amended, it still enshrines the right to enslave people? How is that supposed to make me feel better?
Stop apologizing for your wack ass constitution that was made solely by 20 something, white, male landowners. We are seeing now how easy it is to throw it out. Weak ass document.
The Constitution was written to enshrine Oligarchy, and sold as "Democracy" to those unwilling or unable to read and/or comprehend it. In the original, the only people with any rights and power were Rich, White, Males. The window dressing has changed over the decades, but the core remains. Rich White Males still own and operate the United States. There was no love in that document for anyone other than the Oligarchs.
Seven out of ten Nazis killed in WWII were at the hands of the Soviets.