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[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He doesn't need to be there in person to tug on Trump's strings

He can puppeteer him remotely now that he has done the fundamental damage

America, you guys are so fucked

I don't know how this shit will end, but I can't see anything other than it getting a whole lot worse in the immediate future, and probably for a generation

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

we're probably going to have a civil war of some variety. that's my prediction at least

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope not

As with all war, the most vulnerable will be hit hardest

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net -4 points 23 hours ago

as with our last civil war it will be our bottom tier of society pitted against itself. the sides will, as with last time, be truly horrifically and abjectly evil vs evil but in a way that the most marginalized have some hope of survival under. our only way to a better society afterwards will be to actually do reconstruction this time and not to just half ass it because for the second side they view profit in being gentle to the truly evil.

funny how everytime there's a big war about whether or not Ur-Fascism is bad, the winning side selects a handful of losers to protect and keep safe, and then those losers become the basis for a new fascist movement. see also: operation paperclip

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t know how this shit will end, but I can’t see anything other than it getting a whole lot worse in the immediate future, and probably for a generation

Historically what comes next is a FDR style candidate and a huge progressive movement...

Then 30-40 years later people will forget neoliberlaism was the root cause and the wealthy will buy off both parties again.

Shit is fucked at the moment, but there's reasons to be optimistic for the future

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I sure hope something good comes from it

It's hard to see right now

I'm grateful that I live in a civilised country, but I would rather not see people harmed anywhere

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It’s hard to see right now

Read up on history. Shit really is cyclical.

The details and timelines change, but the biggest thing we've ironically got going for us is Trump. He's an idiot and rushing shit when it isn't worth the risk to his plans.

He picked the fight with the SC years early for example, he should have spent three years slow-walking them even more to his side. But he's an idiot.

If he had spent two years putting things in place they might hold on in midterms, then would have been the time to really start going nuts.

Anyone else and we'd be completely fucked, but trump is so dumb he bankrupted casinos, he's gonna fuck this up.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, the American people will definitely keep fucking things up for you

There's a reason the rest of the world sneers at you (as a country, not as individuals)

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You act like this is new for America and hasn't happened anywhere else...

Which is crazy because it's currently happening other places as well...

Like, you don't seem interested in a conversation, and anything I type will just get an insult directed towards Americans as a reply.

Why punch down?

Why are you acting like trump and his cronies right now?

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not punching down

There are fucked up regimes all over the world. I could rant about Pakistan, Argentina, the Philippines, all sorts of places

But they don't affect other countries like America does

Don't you dare accuse me of acting like Trump and his cohort

How many US presidencies have you lived through? Some giving hope, most making shit worse

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Don’t you dare accuse me of acting like Trump and his cohort

Exactly how trump would react...

No introspection, no questioning of their own behavior...

Just a vague threat because you're mad someone is judging you on your own words.

Literal belligerence.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/belligerence

One of the most apt descriptions of Trump's general behavior, which you clearly share