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By all criteria, this a concentration camp. Not “concentration camp” as rhetorical inflation, or emotionally manipulative shorthand, or edgy metaphor—but as in: literally.

As in: detention without trial, state control, inhumane living conditions, forced labor, dehumanization, brutal violence, isolation from accountability, psychological torture, and—by every available logical extension—murder.

That last one we can’t yet verify in the strict evidentiary sense, but the circumstances suggest it like smoke suggests fire, and they are already trying to hide their actions and deny what is occurring.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Plagiarising propaganda by one president or members of some organization receiving funding from Nazis doesn't make the nation Nazi. That's quite the stretch.

Countless fringe political groups organizing on Telegram to adopt fascist views & looks, holding public demonstrations wearing swastikas downtown, targeting minority groups, and stripping people of their power and their history from the top down is more like it. Because back in the day none of that shit would fly especially around people who fought in the war, but it does now.

If anyone "won" anything, it would be the Nazis

I think you mean US enemies? Because these views were cultivated by them way after the fact.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Because back in the day none of that shit would fly especially around people who fought in the war, but it does now.

I think that we'd be better off if the dads, uncles, and grandpas who came back and refused to talk about their war experiences had made it clearer to the next generation exactly how horrible it was. It didn't fly with them because they saw what it brought. It flies with younger people because we were sheltered from the true horrors of the war.

I think a trip to the Holocaust Museum should be required for all high school seniors. If it isn't closed by the clown show currently running the country, at least.

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you are arguing that the 30-40s US was unlike and unattributed for the Third Reich, then you are obviously correct, but I think you forget that the Nazis existed before Hitler. In the light of what they would become, they were more or less akin to telemarketers. And would THAT fly in the US?

It would

It did

And it always has

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Third Reich, then you are obviously correct, but I think you forget that the Nazis existed before Hitler.

Oh, I'm not forgetting, I actually am currently ignorant of that. 😅 I'll have to revisit this conversation when I'm a bit more read on the topic because I see what you mean now a bit better.