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[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee -5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

These two aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive.

[–] sus@programming.dev 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is mutually exclusive, though, is reality and China's "imminent collapse" which has been looming just around the corner for the past 20 years

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Idk people are saying the same things about the western markets as they have been for decades. Maybe a significant portion of people are just naturally drawn to crash prophets.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i'm not aware of people saying that about western markets until recently.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Then you are not engaging in economically interested circles.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

i sort of am. but then again, the recent trump shenanigans put people on watch for the west.

but admittedly western economies have been stagnating for a while before that now.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Pundits have been predicting the economic collapse of the PRC for decades, there's an entire sub-industry dedicated to "China Watching" that makes good revenue from predicting xyz economic collapse, and it exists because the West wants the PRC to open up its markets for foreigners to plunder freely, rather than the current situation where trade in China is heavily controlled and managed.

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I promise that China will collapse tomorrow.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

It is written.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How can I cash in on predicting China will totally implode next year trust me bro

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

USAID gone, money printer in short supply... 😔

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This administration has been disastrous for the hard working propagandist

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago
[–] kn33@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed. I'm not saying that "collapse is imminent is accurate", but don't act like these are mutually exclusive when the idiom "a candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long" is accurate (to itself - literally the candle).

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah. Anyway what’s with the weird fixation this website has for china? The whole frontage is constantly spammed with memes praising the CCP.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Lemmy is developed by Marxist-Leninists, so there are a bunch of us Marxist-Leninists and other forms of anticapitalists here. MLs generally uphold the CPC and PRC as legitimate Socialism and a positive, progressive force.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Makes sense, thanks for the context. I wouldn’t exactly argue that the current Chinese administration has a lot in common with MLs ideas but let’s not open that can of worms. :)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We don't have to open it if you don't want to, but if you change your mind, I have a bunch of resources I can offer and explanations for what you think may not connect.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well I don’t have the time right now to get into a lengthy discussion (which this would require to do it justice), but if you don’t mind you can post the resources and I’ll check them out in a bit!

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

China has like all the research all the production. Its the country where progress happens irl. Where I live, regress happens irl and progress only happens in my videogames