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So I'm sure a fair number of men who were teenagers around 2015 went through that alt right pipeline. The gamergate crap, youtube "skeptic community", "mens right" and the like. I've been there, unfortunately.

I've gotten over the most of it in a year or two afterwards and come agree with the stuff I've dismissed since. (Mostly as a result of hate watching "the other side" and their arguments sticking) But I never really got over slogans like "kill all men", "abolish men" being said by women, always made me felt like I'm being unfairly included in the group and it's unhelpful campism. Hell I even ranted about it on Hexbear once. (cringe rambling alert).

Slogans like that isn't really seen anymore post ~2018, until recently someone randomly brought it up on a reddit-logo thread. One person just replied

It's basically the equivalent of "Another kkkrakkka down unlimited genocide on the first world". took-restraint

And that ticked with me instantly. I'm no cracker. I'm not from the first world. I'm in "the other camp" and I post stuff like that. But I don't actually mean I celebrate people's death as long as they are white and want to genocide the first world, it's just a statement against imperialism, just like "kill all men" is a statement against the patriarchy.

That's all the rambling I got today. Hopefully if there's anyone here with similar thoughts, this can help them get over it too.


Okay I bet someone is going to tell me the objective of feminism is to actually kill all men now.

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[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

GOOD post. It's one thing to provide the #NotAllMen hotline to remind people that statements just including "men" by themselves are not actually referring to all men, and another thing to say it is all men.

The statement "another kkkrakkka down unlimited genocide on the first world" comes across as funny without a serious intent of literally committing genocide. Those statements do not.

[–] GiorgioBoymoder@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

yeah I was hoping OP meant they got over the need to use the slogan rather than got over discomfort from it. imo we should be wary of any slogan with the form "Kill all [identity group]"

I'm white and if I found a group chanting "kill all whites" it would definitely cause me some discomfort. I'd probably be wary of their cause/intentions with rhetoric like that. I can't stop being white and I would prefer not to be killed for something I cannot change about myself!

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I totally agree with this as someone who is the CEO of complaints about cracKKKers.

It's one thing to go on a rant about how white people are frustrating you; it's another thing altogether to reach into "scientific racism but in favor of Black [or other kind of POC] supremacy instead of white supremacy" territory.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Kill all CEOs didn't make me uncomfortable until now. I guess you're #notallceos. There are people I totally do want dead but I think there's value in being specific.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well also, killing all CEOs won't solve capitalism just as killing all men wouldn't solve the patriarchy. Not that its a bad thing if a CEO dies or I don't think that some CEOs (or men, white people, etc) must die as part of revolution. But the goal isn't to kill a bunch of people - the goal is to abolish the system

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can choose not be rich/a ceo.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

True. I definitely support CEO / rich death. Well, I support their wealth being taken from them by any means. I think a vast plurality of our country needs to spend some time in the country, doing farm work and getting reeducated anyways

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but the majority of CEOs are gonna be dying in that process and I'm more than fine with that. I like to see my enemies dead.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm fine with most ceos dying. I just mean, if every CEO died today, they would be replaced and we would have gotten not very far

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

That would still be really cool

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Anti white and anti Asian hate crimes happened during the Rodney king riots. Its collateral damage and its still a good thing that uprising happened, but its unfortunate that someone died for just being white. Yeah, many more have died from being black in LA but two wrongs don't make a right IMO.

Im talking about physical assault and stuff though. Property crimes, I don't really give a fuck