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there's a difference between cynical and defeated, you know. some of you act like you've given up. i don't want those people for allies. just fucking leave the country or go back to playing video games, because you're doing exactly what they want you to do.
Yeah and obeying in advance, its pathetic
I wish i could, but if I do, I'll never see my children again
and I'm pissed the dems are not starting impeachment proceedings and removing that orange cancer immediately.
What about when you're in a situation where you have to report other anti-MAGA to protect yourself from MAGA? Would you rat out strangers you don't know to protect yourself and your kids?
The "but my children" excuse does not make you an ally, it makes you a liability and untrustworthy. What if they decide to deport you? You'll definitely never see your children again. What about other peoples children? Just because they're not yours, they don't matter to you? Children, aka the future, depends on you going out and fighting, not hiding behind your kids because "my kids are more important than your kids." That mindset of fear and capitulation to fascists is exactly what creates fascism, so stop using your kids as a shield from responsibility. You decided to bring your kids into this situation, not us.
There are other ways to help on the frontline that don't involve picking up a gun and getting shot. On the back end as well, people are needed. You have a unique set of skills, stop giving them to the people that bribe you with money and start using it towards your childrens future.
I meant "i wish I could leave"
I have a complicated history, but long story short, my ex (American citizen) convinced me to move to the States with our children, and when we arrived she sabotaged my greencard application leaving me undocumented. I am trying to get legal status through VAWA, but It's slow.
if I could I would take the kids and return to Europe it would be kidnapping, and if I leave without them, I'll never see them again.
I am living in constant fear of ICE.
I ain't even from here, but I'm stuck here now. Expecting me to fight for your freedom is like blaming a polish jew in the ghetto for not fighting against Hitler hard enough.
I will never rat out anyone else. but also, I know of no one else in my situation anyways.
I'm really sorry for you and your situation, I wish there was anything more I could do than tell you that (as not an American myself). If anything I hope your situation is a cautionary tale for anyone thinking of moving to America.
You need 218 representatives to issue articles of impeachment and 67 Senators to convict (remove from office).
That means that you need every single Dem and independent, PLUS 20 Republican Senators and 5 Republican Members of the House. I would love to see anyone suggest a list of who those 25 Republicans might be.
Also, Trump has been impeached by the House twice and it doesn't seem to have effected his political career negatively.
I'm just upset that they aren't even trying. it's like the only official tool there is too fight this.
we're all upset, but that doesn't do anything. it's up to us.
The dems cant impeach him. He was already inpeached two times.
Republicans are the only ones that can because of their majority
I meant "i wish I could leave"
I have a complicated history, but long story short, my ex (American citizen) convinced me to move to the States with our children, and when we arrived she sabotaged my greencard application leaving me undocumented. I am trying to get legal status through VAWA, but It's slow.
if I could I would take the kids and return to Europe it would be kidnapping, and if I leave without them, I'll never see them again.
I am living in constant fear of ICE.
I ain't even from here, but I'm stuck here now. Expecting me to fight for your freedom is like blaming a polish jew in the ghetto for not fighting against Hitler hard enough.
lol. you don't know how our government works. there is absolutely no way impeachment will ever be successful. R's control the house and senate.
stop waiting on a broken government to fix itself. we are literally in self defense mode. if you really care about your children, you need to start arming yourself.
I'm not waiting for it to fix itself.
I'm upset that they aren't even trying.
we're all upset. let's focus on solutions rather than just complaining.
So what exactly are you doing to help, then? Holding signs up at your weekly protests that are authorized by the police? It's easy to criticize people when you aren't doing shit yourself.
They’re telling their allies to leave the country because they don’t like the words they say. They might as well just join the conservatives.
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lol. not hardly. i have real solutions. read my username, bud.
Right. So you're not doing anything.
God you defeatists are insufferable. Peaceful protests are the START of these movements. We're starting the ball rolling.
Nothing was ever accomplished with peaceful protest, especially not protest that’s sanctioned and scheduled by the authorities.
But I wouldn’t expect a liberal to acknowledge that. Leftists get in the streets, liberals stay in the tweets. You question Trumps methods, but not his power, because once he’s gone, whatever corporate-owned millionaire you appoint will need that power when it comes time to put the boot on the necks of anti-genocide or civil rights protesters.
You’re just diet fascism.
Im actually a libertarian who supports escalating the movement. I also believe politicians need to be reminded to fear the people. But strawman me away. I think we may have more in common than you think.
It's been said in some studies that most of the successful resistances to authoritarian regimes rely on peaceful, not violent resistance. That has surprised me too, but it does help to snowball a much larger movement. It makes people less resistant to participating, and also much harder for the news to demonize. Many people that I've spoken to say they hate what's happening, but are afraid to speak out - and they often change their mind when they see others taking stands too.
We understand events like April 5 do not cause immediate change, but it's highly likely they've had slower effects. Harvard choosing to resist the administration, or the Supreme Court ruling in favor of Garcia, might not have happened if they hadn't seen how much of the nation opposes that administration.
It's obvious that those studies did not take place in the United States, because it's historical fact that none of the rights Americans have were ever achieved through peaceful protest.
Telling people you disagree with to leave the country is the most conservative stance you can take. Just join the Republicans if you're gonna be that far right
you're annoying. fuck off.
Are you going to kick me out of the country for being annoying Mr. Trump?
whatever i have to say to you at this point would be better expressed in person.