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[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm not a fan of the Houthis, but these people are really the equivalent of American guntoting Y'alliban. They like their guns and they like their free speech and they hate foreign countries propping up dictators who oppress them.

The slogan eventually became a sign of public protest against the dictatorship of Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh... The Houthi movement officially adopted the slogan in the wake of the widely condemned 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq. This brought the movement on a collision course with the government, as the government maintained its official pro-American politics despite public opposition. The slogan was outlawed. The Houthis refused to discard it, arguing that the constitution of Yemen protected free speech. By 2004, crackdowns against both the slogan as well as the Houthi movement intensified. Many Houthis were imprisoned and even tortured for having used it.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They like their guns and they like their free speech and they hate foreign countries propping up dictators who oppress them.

That is a grossly inaccurate representation of who the Houthi are. The Houthi Militia are NOT freedom fighters as they are looking to oppress other Yemeni ethnic groups.

This isn’t a case of good ol boys standing up to imperialism, rather it is a group of racist bigots attacking boats that are typically not involved in any conflict.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Where did I call them freedom fighters?

I certainly don't think the Y'alliban are freedom fighters.

I am no fan of the Houthis, but you can't just ignore that they were also oppressed by a dictator propped up by the USA and that they suffered one of the worst famines in the 21st century thanks to the USA and Saudi-Arabia.

They are Yemeni Nationalists propped up by Iran.

No one has clean hands in this conflict.

They were part of a coalition government that they abandoned when it wouldn’t cede them greater control

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

thanks to the USA and Saudi-Arabia.

This is the important fact to remember about Yemen. The US has been helping SA starve this country at least since 2016. Probably longer.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You should look up what aide orgs on the ground are saying because they universally blame the Houthi and KSA for stealing aid from non-combatants.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm sure that has nothing to do with a near decade of forced impoverishment and starvation.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Houthi started the civil war when the coalition government refused to cede them more authority. They regularly steal aide intended for non-combatants.

There’s no version of the Houthi’s suffering that isn’t entirely derived from their actions.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you for the information. I hope you have a pleasant day.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This reads as sarcastic but given your prior stance you seem completely serious for some reason.

It isn’t sarcastic. The aide orgs have been blaming the Houthi for stealing aide for the entirety of the conflict. KSA’s army has been preventing it from entering Yemen so the Houthi cannot steal more of it.

Regardless the folks backing the Houthi are just uncritically mimicking old Iranian propaganda.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It always seems a bit weird to me when people who've been forced into the worst kind of deprivation are the ones taking the blame for what that desperation has driven them to do, instead of the US and Saudi Arabia, who've purposefully created a situation where millions are starving.

I don't have specific-enough knowledge of Yemen to speak authoritatively, but I am well aware of the US involvement and what the partnership with the SA has done to these people in a general sense, so it feels like proper credit should be assigned here.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

This has to be a bot lmfao.