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[–] Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago (53 children)

Veganism. It's interesting to see how even seemingly very moral people throw logic out the door when the topic turns to not killing animals.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social -1 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

I think the issue for me is less about not harming animals but more about the massive infrastructure of resource extraction, exploited labor force, and resource-intensive production that directly contributes to pollution and the undermining of low-income populations to subsidize vegan plant-based alternatives to meat and dairy. Vegans that support this industry arguably cause just as much harm to animals (including human workers and beasts of burden) as your average Texas Roadhouse customer.

[–] desinetizen@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Extremely ignorant take. Oxford Scientists Confirm Vegan Diet Is Massively Better For Planet

You don't even need sources for this, use common sense. What's going to cause more harm and resource consumption - growing five times more grain to feed animals and then eat those animals, or simply eating the grains directly? Animal agriculture is responsible for mass deforestation, a major contributor to greenhouse gas emissions and species extinction. But no, it's the vegans "arguably causing just as much harm."

Wouldn't it be nice if people bothered looking up things before they talk about them?

[–] Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

It's not about being better than someone. Avoiding both animal and human harm can (and often do!) go hand in hand.

Many vegans I know try to reduce their harmful effects on the planet altogether.

Not many omnivores I know even try to help at all. Some do, but the ratio is completely different for this segment in my experience.

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