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Frankly, seeing them literally enable shit that he’s doing now convinced me of a thing I fought HARD against in the general: the DNC is fully dead at this point. There is no rescuing it as a political party. It is completely insensitive to the needs and wishes of the American people, and that is specifically why it lost. A new party is required. Before, I thought the more dangerous option was to fracture the vote. I’ve come to understand that this is just a sunk-cost fallacy. I didn’t think the DNC would be as absolutely feckless as it was - I thought there were still some actual, intelligent, well-meaning people still in the room, but there weren’t, and there aren’t. Even considering the crazy hurdles that are put in place to enforce two-party rule, I genuinely no longer see any real benefit to staying with the party.
I used to think we should vote for slowing down the badness (voting Democrat instead of letting Republicans win), but after seeing them do almost nothing in the face of obvious fascism and rule-breaking (the Democrats love being bound by rules), maybe it's better to burn everything down faster. Stalling might have just been boiling the frog that is the US citizenry.
I mean, I see it with a bit more nuance than that.
I voted D before across the board last election because I saw it as a brake on the course towards fascism. The fact that Democratic leadership across the board is too fucking limpdick to do anything other than set up deals that will OBVIOUSLY be dropped on the floor the second the fascists get what they want is just the final object lesson that they’re not fit for purpose. They’ve taken away the whole “we’re fighting against fascism” thing, and that was the only reason I so fervently pushed to line up support behind any Democrats I could. So whereas before, the disincentive for a 3p vote was “it will probably help the fascists win”… that logic no longer works, because the fascists have won.
So, fuck you, DNC. I will go 3p, or even just write shit in if you don’t give me a compelling candidate now. You negotiated your way into complete irrelevance, and sold us down the river while you were at it. Good fucking job.