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Can we defederate with Hexbear?
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this post was submitted on 26 Aug 2023
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Every time I read a stupid comment and then check the instance 100% of the time it's hexbear.
So far I've not seen any rule breaking posts.
Edit: I made this comment after only seeing hexbear users in few nz thread but after seeing more and seeing how the partcipate. I think we should defederate. They will never participate in good faith as they are an extremist instance. Majority of the big instances have already defederated with them so its not like we will be singling them out. On the point of "diverse viewpoints", policy so far bans extreme right wing instances and extreme leftwing instances. All the reasonable view points that a hexbear user could provide can be provided by the many leftists across other instances.
Yeah, that's exactly the issue. Nothing of value comes from their instance, but they do follow the rules.
Then why is it an issue?
If you're not going to engage in good faith with the discussion, then take a hike.
You're not great at providing examples or reasoning to back up your claims in this thread. You seem pretty trolling, dismissive, and hostile. Everything you're accusing others of being.
As I've said countless times now, they don't engage, they drown out. It's not each individual comment that's the problem, it's the overall effect.
You certainly have repeated yourself countless times.
Just downvote and move on mate if you don't like it
There's more of them than there is of us, and they all upvote each other.
Sometimes you're in the minority. Get used to it.
so why are you here, then?
Regarding the edit, what is their instance actually about, what are their leanings? I haven't been to visit, and don't really want to.
They're anti nato communists and some socialists. I took a geez at their "why does everyone hate our instance thread" and it seems that in their words, since they have been on the platform for 3 years they have a strong instance culture. They are used to fighting and battling trolls so when they see something they don't like they swarm on it and argue aggressively.
From my opinion its a political community that focuses on pushing extreme left wing views. They are anti western, anti capitalism and anti racism and bigotry. I laughed because one of the reasons they keep giving for being hated is because "they're always right".
I think calling them anti capitalism and anti racist is a bit reaching as many of them seem to support the state capitalism of Russia and the CCP. And I have yet to come across a hexbear user that has ever brought up the current genocide of the Uyghur population in China, they'd much rather point fingers at western countries for their issues instead of holding up a mirror to their own beliefs regarding "communism" in its current form in Russia and China.
I was trying to be charitable since I think they would describe themself that way. Their position is not really logical because they are forced to support Russia and China.
Who's forcing them to support genocidal state capitalists?
I cant tell you why they support them it doesnt make much sense to me. I only saw them say that they were all on the same page about everything which means that users cannot deviate from the pro russia/china stance.
That just means that they are choosing to support state capitalists. Nobody forced them to have such awful beliefs but themselves, because they love authoritarian ideology.
I know they are choosing it. I was trying to point to the fact that to be on that instance you have to have that viewpoint because the above poster said that they wouldnt argue it in good faith and that is why.
Its like if I am on a nazi instance and I argued that Hitler was bad with someone from another instance. the people on that nazi instance would say "wow this guy doesnt even support hitler" when I went back to my home instance and tried to talk or argue with them.
While I definitely agree with the sentiment that they would like to describe themselves that way, but on the other hand no one is forcing them to support those countries. And a sizable portion of those users and supporters seem to be unwilling to have a civil discussion regarding the issues with their "alliances" when brought up by other users.
Being anti NATO, I suspect they're also on Russia's side regarding Ukraine? Yeah, fuck em.
They LOVE Putin and the CCP. They'll dogpile anyone who disagrees.
Euww. Yeah, they can fuck right off.
They're authoritarians. The communist stuff is just an excuse to worship authoritarian regimes like the CCP.
Tankies. They are pro authoritarian communist or socialist regimes like China and USSR, and anti western liberal capitalist democracies like US and NZ.
They got banned from Reddit and moved to an isolated Lemmy instance long before the rest of Lemmy got big, but decided to experiment with federation fairly recently.
So what's with the attitude in your other comment? Clearly these people have no plans to engage in good faith.