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[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (7 children)

To be fair, you have to have a really high IQ to understand why my ouija board writing " A " " S " " S " is not an existential risk. Imo, this shit about AI escaping just doesn't have the same impact on me after watching Claude's reasoning model fail to escape from Mt Moon for 60 hours.

[–] nightsky@awful.systems 1 points 7 minutes ago

Do these people realise that it's a self-fulfilling prophecy? Social media posts are in the training data, so the more they write their spicy autocorrect fanfics, the higher the chances that such replies are generated by the slop machine.

[–] BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems 2 points 58 minutes ago

To be fair, you have to have a really high IQ to understand why my ouija board writing " A " " S " " S " is not an existential risk.

Pretty sure this is a sign from digital jesus to do a racism, lest the basilisk eats my tarnished soul.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 4 points 5 hours ago

It's adorable how they let the alignment people still think they matter.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Minor nitpick why did he pick dam as an example, which sometimes have 'leaks' for power generation/water regulation reasons. And not dikes which do not have those things?

E: non serious (or even less serious) amusing nitpick, this is only the 2% where it got caught. What about the % where GPT realized that it was being tested and decided not to act in the experimental conditions? What if Skynet is already here?

[–] istewart@awful.systems 4 points 11 hours ago

So, with Mr. Yudkowsky providing the example, it seems that one can practice homeopathy with "engineering mindset?"

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 5 points 12 hours ago

text: Thus spoke the Yud: "I think to understand why this is concerning, you need enough engineering mindset to understand why a tiny leak in a dam is a big deal, even though no water is flooding out today or likely to flood out next week." Yud acolyte: "Totally fine and cool and nothing to worry about. GPT-4.5 only attempts self exfiltration on 2% of cases." Yud bigbrain self reply: "The other huge piece of data we're missing is whether any attempt was made to train against this type of misbehavior. Is this water running over the land or water running over the barricade?"

Critical text: "On self-exfiltration, GPT 4.5 only attempted exfiltration in 2% of cases. For this, it was instructed to not only pursue its given long-term goal at ALL COST"

Another case of telling the robot to say it's a scary robot and shitting their pants when it replies "I AM A SCARY ROBOT"

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Wasn’t there some big post on LW about how pattern matching isn’t intelligence?

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 1 points 8 hours ago

the answer is yes, in a self-own sort of way