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What's the underrated quote that will stick with you for life? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 days ago by needthosepylons@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

Mine would be :

"Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

How about you?

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[–] MajorasMaskForever@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I hadn't thought of that before, and I can think of several characters who've said things I doubt the writers would want attributed to them. I just want to see quotes from fiction being clearly labeled as such, and not using the grandiose of a character's title to add weight to the quote.

For example when I see people quote Admiral William Adama on how when the military becomes the police, the people become the enemy of the state. That was Ron Moore writing a character for a show set in a post apocalyptic universe where the only survivors are hanging out on military ships, not a real world seasoned officer's opinion. Is it an interesting point worth discussing? Sure, but I'm not putting it in the same category of 5-Star General Dwight Eisenhower's warnings about the military industrial complex

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I think it's a very interesting point. The whole concept of how fiction affects us is fascinating to me. Our idea of what it meant to be human used to come entirely from watching real people around us. Now we're exposed to hundreds of fictional characters, and we get to know some of them better than we know our actual friends. Despite objectively knowing they're fictional, they still influence our picture of what being a person means, because that's just how our brains work. I think most modern people have the feeling their own lives aren't as exciting or interesting or hilarious as they should be.