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House Democratic lawmakers reportedly used a closed-door meeting earlier this week to vent their frustrations with progressive advocacy groups that have been driving constituent calls and pressuring the party to act like a genuine opposition force in the face of the Trump administration's authoritarian assault on federal agencies and key programs.

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The left won't big-tent: if you aren't perfect and addressing their issue du jour, well, good luck. I don't know how you make a progressive party if there is no ability to prioritize.

And by the way I get it, if I wasn't allowed to exist, I would sure as shit want my issue at the front of the line too.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The left will happily big-tent to a point, but we're not about to include people who directly attack the party platform, and we need to throw out those shits when we find them-- the liebermans, bidens, sinemas, and fettermans. We need to get back to having a party platform, which the current democratic party doesnt really. We also cant belly up to AIPACs udder like the other parties did or we'll be right back where we started.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had such high hopes for Fetterman. He seemed like the closest thing to putting myself in the Senate. Every article I've seen about him since then just makes me a little more wrong. Still one hundred times better than Dr. OZ though, so no regrets, just disappointment.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I like to think Fetterman's stroke had something to do with neutering him. Whether or not that's the reason for his collaboration.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I don't think that's as true as you'd like to think. It's not even about accepting outsiders, it's purely about agreeing what issue to tackle first. Seeems to me there's a really strong vibe of "I'm in if it's my issue" and protesting "what about my issue?!" when it's not. No concept of eating one bite at a time even though that's how the work gets done.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This might hold water if Democrats would quit working in the wrong direction on those issues while they're tackling one thing at a time.

Democrats supported genocide. Democrats ran anti-trans hate in their own ads. Democrats adopted Republican border policy.

Also, what one thing were they working on during this time?

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They didn't. As I'm sure you know. The only unifying thing was "not trump" and "punish trump for doing loudly what others had done quietly".

But. What are D voters asking for? Is it any wonder the reps aren't unified if we aren't either? Of for and by the people doesn't really work if we all spend our days asking Lemmy how to avoid politics and watching ASMR videos. Or LETTING TRUMP GET INTO OFFICE because of protest no votes against genocide thinking you're some kind of fucking hero.

Everybody that allowed trump for any reason deserves to get a little bit fucked by the admin. We gotta do better, and this should make it clear to everyone that there. are. consequences.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

They didn’t. As I’m sure you know. The only unifying thing was “not trump” and “punish trump for doing loudly what others had done quietly”.

And they either expected that to work or didn't care if it did.

But. What are D voters asking for?

They have made that clear. They want the Democrats to quit being useless. They want the Democrats to stop selling us all out under the pretext of being polite to people that want us dead in camps.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not saying you're wrong but I feel like slow iteration has never worked. We've been stuck in the same politics for maybe 30 years. And the DNC dems seem like they arent interested in making anything better, just in winning. They barely bother to make a platform anymore. Its like an afterthought.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

The only platform is "we follow the rules and the procedures" and that's all we got. I would love to see a full progressive agenda, but the first step is, in my opinion, getting money out of politics or it will take a long time to break Republican control and an even longer time to push out the neoliberal old guard on the left. Then you have to fight this fractionation problem. With no ranked choice, the same old neoliberal is probably going to win the primary between the women's rights advocate, the gay rights activist, the pro Palestine anti war ambassador, and so on. I'm also against slow iteration, and this is why it isn't working. You can't just say the equivalent opposite of "guns, Jesus, and trump!" (whatever that is) and win a progressive left race.