But still for the sake of argument, what exactly do you count as villainization? Are we talking saying mean words or being critical of republican voters online? Are we talking about punching Nazis? Are we talking about cutting off friends and family from our personal lives for being politically repugnant?

If its the first thing, poor babies got their feelings hurt. Taking criticism or being shamed is not a reason to become worse. Thing is, the vast majority of vocal republican voters don't even seem to indicate that they care anyway. They seem to embrace being considered bad people.

If its the second thing, maybe don't wear Nazi uniforms, zieg heil, or draw swastikas on shit and they wont get punched. You know, stop being Nazis.

If its the final thing, we don't owe these people our personal time. I've cut off my dad as much as I feasibly can and hes only a bandwagon republican rather than full MAGA. There is no chance in hell I'll ever convince him to not vote republican. Fuck him, I don't care if hes sad he doesn't get to see me. Maybe he shouldn't support fascists.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Damn okay - so no path to redemption in your book. I voted for a republican a long time go - so I'm a nazi now apparently. Well, since there's no path to redemption, I guess I might as well continue voting for them, since voting Dem isn't going to absolve me of anything.

(/s on my part obviously; but people seriously think this way)

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did I say you were Nazi?

Also I specified a starting point to redemption: Not voting republican.

[+] kitnaht@lemmy.world -8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean, if they voted for republicans, they are villains in so far as one can be a villain.

Sure, *you* didn't in this particular scenario - but you got awfully close. That's the point I'm making. The loud, extremist voices driving off otherwise reasonable people.

I'm ON your side. But you're not on mine. Look at the overwhelming response here with the immediately pegging me into a "both sides" fallacy and then everyone attempting to argue me down as if that was my argument in the first place.

It's straight up unreasonable - I'm one of the very few who will tolerate it to get my point across. Everyone else will leave much faster, and then just vote against you.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

If someone is petty enough to vote for an evil that would make the earth a significantly worse place because they had strangers being mean to them online... they're evil.

If enough people are like that, those dumb "Giant Comet 2024" bumper stickers have a point.

Further, it hardly matters anymore. Enough people were seemingly that petty, and now we might not even get another election for voting to even matter. Hell, it might barely matter anyway even if we somehow manage to still have elections, climate change is going to get significantly worse and Trump's admin is going to if anything accelerate that.