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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, the 2-party system sucks, but it is the system we have. No amount of whining or wishful thinking was going to change that.

There were two choices: Status Quo (but not fascism) and Speedrun to Fascism.

"Not Trump" was not a candidate. If voters couldn't suck it up and vote for the only viable non-fascism candidate, then it is their fault and they are responsible.

I'm done with this debate since you seem to want to blame everyone but the people who didn't do their part.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If the system relies on everyone doing everything perfectly, then the system is flawed. Take a moment to reflect on the fact that voters chose to reject the status quo. I'd personally prefer it too, but the fact is that people saw the option between status quo and something different, and leaped for something different. That says something about the deep, systemic flaws in the status quo, the neoliberal parties, and how they paved the way for fascists to take over the neoliberal conservative party.

I'm openly saying that voters have blame to carry. But remember that blame and responsibility are separate. The parties had an obligation to prevent fascism, and they failed. They are responsible.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm openly saying you have to carry the blame and responsibility of what's going in

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

That's an interesting conclusion, how did you come to it?