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Says Australia, Canada, and the UK, with their leftwing governments.
The US falling will be like Rome falling. America going down will be a whirlpool of Biblical proportions, dragging everyone down with us.
Reading your other responses, it's like no one has a sense of history or world economies.
And what will the West do when it's Russia and the US? Europe is falling flat on their face in the Ukraine, a threat right on their doorstep. LOL, they can't make enough artillery shells to keep up with a 3rd world army using WWII gear.
Russia wants rare earths in the two regions it's declared, and has hinted at wanting to invade Moldova (Odesa being a longterm interest for Russia)... It also wants Sebastopol obviously for the naval port that doesn't freeze over. But there's Zero chance they could go up against Europe collectively, not without China at least, and they're not as into the idea.
But I think you're being hyperbolic if you think the US will collapse in such a short time fram (Rome took at least a century), or that WW3 is going to arrive in Europe anytime soon. We're still multiple highly unlikely geopolitical maneuvers away from that.
It's consolidation. At worst it's preparation for China's 2030 push (and that's not a sure thing either, have to see what happens in the US in 2028 before we get to finding more out about that).
The UK is more "left of the right" than left at the moment. Though, there is hope the greens might wake up and gently pull them a little more left.
Remember, the band of fuckweasles that is reform are polling close to labour.
It's amazing how far right Labour has drifted.
I wouldn't get too complacent about the fact that the UK finally moved ever-so-slightly to the left. The press is just waiting to tear Starmer limb-from-limb. You saw that with how they amplified all the BS stuff about his CPS days. One good scandal could topple Labour and open the door to reform. Not delivering any material improvements for people who are struggling could have the same effect
Yea this is a US problem not a western society problem.
Yes! USA is not "Western Society".
Yes, the damage the US will cause with its collapse will suck, but Western Society as a whole is doing pretty well.
Aside from the commonwealth countries, Northern Europe is doing great. Germany is having some issues with AfD, but overall things are steady there. France has its usual issues, but they've soundly rejected the extreme right. Ireland is doing amazingly well. Benelux is just fine. Poland made a sudden turn towards openness and EU integration in their last election. Sure, Italy's leader is right wing, but she's hardly been wrecking things the way Trump has.
But, it's no shock that an American thinks that American troubles means the collapse of democracy and civilization.
Canada has maple trump on the ballot and leading in the polls.
The US is heavily interfering in our political scape to push conservative votes
Little PP is bad, and maybe wants to be Trump, but he's so clearly not Trump.
And, his pro-MAGA position has now put him on the wrong side now that Trump decided to attack Canada.
It's still likely he'll win, but I think the last couple of weeks have really damaged his campaign.
Please preserve democracy. Preserve civilization. Maybe someday, we here in the US will be able to cast off the fascist regime, limp back into the international order, hat in our hands, and ask the nations which preserved themselves to re-educate us in basic humanity.