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Whats your favorite "deep lore" from a game? (hexbear.net)
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Something that totally shocked you learning it or realizing it. I might be using the wrong wording here, but ill give you my example:

In Ocarina of Time, we all know the Triforce was cut, or otherwise not something you get in the game, save for in the cutscenes towards the end. BUT - did you know you can actually go find it and see it in the game?

If you have a Gameshark, turn on the levitation code. Go go Zeldas Cortyard in the room where she is, and fly over the wall. When you fall, you'll land in a pool of invisible water, and underneath the center of the room with the flowers, look down - there it is. Can't interact with it, but you can see it, and i choose to believe putting it in that exact spot was intentional for lore reasons.

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[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not super deep, but the theory that the Gen 1 Pokemon evo lines were reworked for Butterfree/Venomoth to better conform with children's understanding of metamorphosis in bug species. Based on visual design, some fans speculate that the original evo lines were:

Venonat > Metapod > Butterfree

Caterpie > Venomoth

But then changed to Cat > Met > Butt and Ven/Ven

Idk i read up on it that sugimori did intend it as it ended up but there's enough doubt and prima facie convincing stuff to make it fun, enduring lore

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's the evidence that it was switched?

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Mostly superficial similarities between the body colour, teeth, antennae and eyes

There is no textual evidence of a switch afaik. The fan justification of the switch is that children learn caterpillar, cocoon, butterfly as the basis for metamorphosis, not caterpillar, chrysalis, moth.

I messed up my original post with the line too, it was speculated that the original line was cat > met > moth and ven > butt

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Huh. I can kinda see it. Neat.