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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemm.ee to c/news@lemmy.world

The co-founder of failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX pleaded not guilty to a seven count indictment charging him with wire fraud, securities fraud and money laundering.

An attorney for FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried said in federal court Tuesday his client has to subsist on bread, water and peanut butter because the jail he's in isn't accommodating his vegan diet.

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[-] pythonoob@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Nah, fuck him.

You can be vegan for good reasons but I feel like he's just doing it to make a show.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 21 points 1 year ago

I also think it's for show. Having worked in a jail kitchen, they serve lots of cheap food like beans and rice but also have vegetables and other foods that'd be considered vegan. I suspect what's happening is that he isn't getting gourmet meals like he was previously accustomed to, so he's refusing to eat anything else to gain sympathy points.

[-] snapeyouinhalf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Depends on how it’s prepared. There are plenty of things one could add to veg that make them nonvegan, and a lot of us do add those things. Assuming originally vegan foods will be prepared and served in a way that keeps them vegan is a poor assumption. Idk about this guy’s actual diet, but I’ve seen a lot of vegans accidentally breaking their diet by eating something they assume is vegan, and then get sick from it since their bodies aren’t used to it anymore. Not to mention the guilt felt by those who are extremely serious about it.

[-] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 8 points 1 year ago

I agree, only because it's about veganism that there is a supportive reaction. If they were not respecting his Christian/Muslim beliefs for example no one here would bat an eye, especially here.

[-] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Admittedly if he held a religion that he claimed required meat consumption I would be in favor of not accommodating him. Thankfully, no major religion does this, because as it turns out in trying to seek ethical practice, they all arrive at the idea that abstaining from killing conscious beings is morally good.

[-] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago

I also believe your first comment is correct and the US prison system is quite messed up to say the least. However I'm being very pragmatic here and I'm not going to shed a tear if he personally only has bread and water to eat. if anything it will do him some good. the problem is that this is applied to every person in jail or most jails.

[-] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Word - My point isn't about this particular guy so much as the precedent to be set for all incarcerated people, and the commentary people have surrounding it.

[-] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He has been Vegan since at least April 2021. He was not arrested until December 2022. It's not a circus show. The dude's ethical beliefs in regards to Veganism are not in question. They need to be respected.

[-] pythonoob@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

Ironic he can respect animals more than people. He won't find much sympathy here.

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I respect animals more than people in most instances, I've had much worse experiences with other people than most animals in my life.

[-] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ironic he can respect animals more than people

He doesn't eat humans or variations of incarcerated pregnant ladies' nonconsensually acquired breast milk. He respects them at least the same actually.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

Yes instead of killing mammals he does the humane thing of subjecting them to a long life of ruin and despair.

[-] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hey, nobody said he was a wholly good person. Dude's going to jail for a reason.

[-] pythonoob@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Those animals don't have money to steal though, so really it's hard to make an equivalency.

[-] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The equivalency I've provided is equivalent. If animals were moral agents with bank accounts he may have done the same to them while still respecting their bodily autonomy. But they are just moral subjects with no bank accounts, so I'm only going to make equivalent what is certain. I don't think you can certainly say he respects non-human animals more than humans.

[-] pythonoob@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, I don't think he does respect animals more than humans. I don't really believe that's he's actually vegan.

[-] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Well homie I've got evidence that suggests he is and you have none that says he isn't so I'm just going to work with that.

[-] pythonoob@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago

That's cool dawg. You can support the shit bag that ripped off thousands of people for billions of dollars if it helps you sleep at night. I don't believe for a second someone that messed up can have a good thought. So he may say he's vegan, but I doubt it.

[-] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I support the right to abstain from putting murdered or otherwise non-consenting conscious beings bodily fluid inside your body, irrespective of person. No need to mischaracterize.

[-] pythonoob@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

You're right, I'm not being fair. Look I can get behind vegans being given vegan options. I even think he should have vegan options. But for this piece of shit in particular, I'm not gonna cry for him waiting for those options.

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