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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A republic you say?

Republic just means a country without monarchy.

China is a Republic

North Korea is a Republic

The US is a Democratic Republic

Where do you think the name of the political party "Democratic-Republicans" come from?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

North Korea is also. Democratic Republic too!

So much good, amirite?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

xD

Technically true. But instead of two-party system, they get one-party system. Decision is overrated anyways!

Hail the the supreme leader 🫡 /s

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey now! The US is much more democratic, because we get to choose between two hand picked selections from our oligarchs.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

I mean yeah the US absolutely is much more democratic than North Korea, but it's the lowest of bars

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Oh my god, can you people shut up with this already.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The senate, and SCOTUS are verrrry democratic.

Not having primaries for either of the two available parties is very democratic.

The electoral college is the most democratic way to make sure the minority voice maintains a dictatorship.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

If he meant "this system isn't democratic enough", hard agree. It sounded like the "the founders wanted a republic and we should stop trying to be a democracy" you hear from MAGAs.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When a person says the US is a republic, not a democracy, I take it as them defining "democracy" as a "pure democracy" only, despite the fact that there are other kinds, such as republics. Kinda like saying "that's not a dog, it's a Labrador."

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, the founders wanted an oligarchy, and we have an oligarchy...

The first step to fixing the problem, is admitting we have a problem: The US was never intended to be a democracy for anyone except oligarchs, and it's still not a democracy for anyone but oligarchs.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

On paper, it was a rejection of monarchism, so a step away from centralized control - but, in the same sort of way as the Magna Carta, where they didn't make the leap all the way to popular democracy, and instead sought to partially democratize power only among the ruling class. More democratic features have been added since then (suffrage, equal protection clause, etc.), though not nearly enough. IMO we do need to completely throw the system out and start over, only carrying over things for the sake of streamlining/continuity.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] dx1@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He wrote "it's not a democracy, it's a republic" originally.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was explaining my fish preferences.

I tried to hold on to the red snapper but I took what was in the box.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Do you not love fish?

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Why not? It’s fun. Plus I hate it when the herring bones get stuck in my teeth.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

No I didn’t.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A republic is a kind of democracy.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

So long, and thanks for all the fish

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Because democracy is an abstract name for a system and republic is the more concrete result of that system

In other words, a republic is a kind of democracy.