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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A republic you say?

Republic just means a country without monarchy.

China is a Republic

North Korea is a Republic

The US is a Democratic Republic

Where do you think the name of the political party "Democratic-Republicans" come from?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

North Korea is also. Democratic Republic too!

So much good, amirite?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

xD

Technically true. But instead of two-party system, they get one-party system. Decision is overrated anyways!

Hail the the supreme leader 🫡 /s

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey now! The US is much more democratic, because we get to choose between two hand picked selections from our oligarchs.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

I mean yeah the US absolutely is much more democratic than North Korea, but it's the lowest of bars

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh my god, can you people shut up with this already.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The senate, and SCOTUS are verrrry democratic.

Not having primaries for either of the two available parties is very democratic.

The electoral college is the most democratic way to make sure the minority voice maintains a dictatorship.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If he meant "this system isn't democratic enough", hard agree. It sounded like the "the founders wanted a republic and we should stop trying to be a democracy" you hear from MAGAs.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When a person says the US is a republic, not a democracy, I take it as them defining "democracy" as a "pure democracy" only, despite the fact that there are other kinds, such as republics. Kinda like saying "that's not a dog, it's a Labrador."

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, the founders wanted an oligarchy, and we have an oligarchy...

The first step to fixing the problem, is admitting we have a problem: The US was never intended to be a democracy for anyone except oligarchs, and it's still not a democracy for anyone but oligarchs.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

On paper, it was a rejection of monarchism, so a step away from centralized control - but, in the same sort of way as the Magna Carta, where they didn't make the leap all the way to popular democracy, and instead sought to partially democratize power only among the ruling class. More democratic features have been added since then (suffrage, equal protection clause, etc.), though not nearly enough. IMO we do need to completely throw the system out and start over, only carrying over things for the sake of streamlining/continuity.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] dx1@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He wrote "it's not a democracy, it's a republic" originally.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was explaining my fish preferences.

I tried to hold on to the red snapper but I took what was in the box.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Do you not love fish?

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why not? It’s fun. Plus I hate it when the herring bones get stuck in my teeth.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

No I didn’t.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A republic is a kind of democracy.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So long, and thanks for all the fish

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Because democracy is an abstract name for a system and republic is the more concrete result of that system

In other words, a republic is a kind of democracy.