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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

You're gonna need a better source than Wikipedia, which has a ridiculous level of slant against the DPRK (look up "Propaganda village" if you need convincing)

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Wikipedia, the neutral website that also somehow happened to protest with a Reddit-style blackout when Donald Trump tried passing those internet bills, has a slant against the leader's party? Alright, I'll humor you.

Also, completely unrelated question about that, how does one square someone having a slant against a political party, being on good terms with the political international that party is in, that party being in said political international, and that party being in a nation that works against anything about itself being publicized?

[-] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm confused, can you elaborate? The DPRK is North Korea's name for itself. WPK is its majority party. Are you claiming they're part of a political international that wikipedia is on good terms with?

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I counted a few (there are eighteen Communist internationals).

[-] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Okay but which one is wikipedia aligned with? Could you link to your information? I'm trying to learn.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It's not so much Wikipedia is aligned "with" anyone (in a favoritist sense) but that they are on good terms with them. Wikipedia lists a few of the internationals here, note how Communist internationals take up the bulk of internationals, some which share countries. The two most relevant ones are this and this one which star North Korea. Having never heard of a slant towards the WPK before yesterday, how this might be still piques my curiosity given the internationals seem fine, and the only thing that comes to my mind is how North Korea has, let's just say a digital reputation.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago
[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What I was trying to imply was “if anything” is going to suffer their bias, Marxism is on their unlikelihood list.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Hahahaha ah yes the website with a massive nazi problem is going to be unbiased against Marxists, okay buddy

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Did you even read your first linked article? It echoes what I’m saying now.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Dude, it's Wikipedia... How are you not getting it? I linked you a Wikipedia article about bias on Wikipedia as a joke

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

So then what’s the basis for the second article? That people editing wikipedia pages are in an edit war over the atrocities of the nazis? That it’s longterm and ordained by wikipedia themselves? Elaborate.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

The basis for the second article is that there is thousands of Nazis on Wikipedia, seemingly writing barely-challenged lies. The point of the second article is that Wikipedia has a nazi problem, which leads to it having a right-wing bias.
I don't believe it's some sinister plot by Wikipedia, but it is a fact that it is an issue wikipedia has. It is the downside to the "everyone is an editor" format which the site makes use of

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The two things just seem to undermine each other, but that aside, I hope the other sources will do, whatever your criteria is for a good source.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

You were being critiqued for use of Wikipedia, you defended Wikipedia as being neutral, I pointed out how it wasn't. That is the crux of the discussion you and I have been having. I am not embroiled in a larger one about the DPRK or whatever. Wikipedia sucks as a source and now you know, hopefully that'll keep you from using dogshit source material some other time

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You say that like I didn’t use other places as sources as well.

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