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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago

Liberalism is the ideological basis of Capitalism. When Capitalism was a progressive force, ie during the French Revolution, it was considered left wing. Now that Capitalism has become entrenched and turned to Imperialism, the progressive side is undeniably Socialism, while liberalism entrenches the status quo.

Simply saying that liberalism at one point was progressive does not mean history has not had several centuries of shifts and developments since then.

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

You're being incredibly euro-centric with your claims here.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago
[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago

Your notion of where the modern divide lies is 100% European and won’t hold true when you consider all nations.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

Liberalism is european in origin, as Capitalism first truly took hold there. It isn't the "modern divide" but the notion of Liberalism as a progressive motion or regressive motion.

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago

Capitalism was first instituted by the first Liberal nation- the USA. Europe was mostly mercantilist

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 hours ago

No, the mode of production creates the ideology, not the opposite.

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago

And Europe was mired in mercantilist systems. The government gave business permission to exist in many cases.

America was the first to institute capitalism, Europeans cane up with the philosophy but America put it into practice.

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