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Socialism does not mean controlled by the state, that is just a state service, which can be capitalist.

Socialism, and I cannot stress this enough, is not when the government does stuff

[-] abfarid@startrek.website -2 points 4 days ago

Where did I say "government does stuff"? If a service is provided not for profit, funded by the community and is otherwise not privately owned, it's socialist. It needs to be for-profit and/or privately owned to be capitalist.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

No, this type of thinking is anti-dialectical. Capitalism is a system where private property and commodity production is primary, and socialism is a system where collective ownership and planning is primary. This does not mean systems are partially Socialist and partially Capitalist, but that property relations are not uniform in most systems. I think reading Marx would be helpful for you.

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago

This may help clear up much of where you are butting heads with MLs in your comments.

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