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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 year ago (4 children)

actually hilarious that the navy saw a radar signature for a fighter jet whilst off the coast of Yemen and decided "yep that's definitely a hostile target" actual smoothbrain navy.

Don't F-18s have IFF too? Fuck sake lmao

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All I'm saying is if you have a Yemeni drone following behind an F/A-18F on takeoff or landing, and an infrared heat seeking missile (SM-2 or SM-3) is fired at the drone, the F/A-18F's two jet engines have a much larger heat signature than the drone which makes for a juicy target, and the rest is history (for the F/A-18F).

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't believe that amerikkkan ships have IR SAMs, just radar.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

SM-2MR Block IIIB and SM-3 have terminal IR guidance. Also terminal active radar homing will just lock onto anything in it's view, the missiles won't have the IFF codes onboard. Only using semi active homing will be missiles be guided using a radar connected to the IFF system.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you add the quote from Mohammed Ali al-Houthi from earlier this year, it definitely suits the emote:

The heroes in the Yemeni armed forces know about the loopholes that can be exploited by synchronizing the take-off or landing of American aircraft on the ships. I advise the American and its allies to issue a decision not to take off at all.

He even told the US how they would accomplish this, warned them in advance, and then went out and did it. F/A-18F down.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah this is definitely 5D chess then lmao

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

possible. I'm going off the assumption that it was using SARH which would easily differentiate between such targets BUT the SM-3 also has a passive infrared seeker so my theory is moot.

Also, just before posting this Houthis have claimed they shot it down lmao.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Also, just before posting this Houthis have claimed they shot it down lmao.

If you read the statement , it states: "Shooting down an F-18 aircraft while the destroyers were trying to confront the Yemeni drones and missiles." In that context it reads, to me at least, as if the Yemeni Armed Forces engineered a situation which caused the US to shoot down their own plane. A valid and impressive tactic, a loss is a loss no matter what or who fires the shot.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I think the translation to English is probably goofy

My air force buddy says that sometimes F-18 pilots will try to "nudge" cruise missiles to divert them, so it's possible that both of these are nudges gone wrong. It's also possible that I'm the heat of the moment, the pilots were attempting a nudge while the destroyer was firing anti missile shots and hit them

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't F-18s have IFF too?

Not only that, but all military aircraft are outfitted with an enhanced version of IFF that includes an encrypted challenge/response that uses a rotating series of codes. IFF codes are loaded as part of preflight checks, so either they ignored it, or somebody really fucked up.

[–] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Its because Yemen shot it down. This is how amerika launders its losses.

Even better, the US shot it down because the missile locked onto a Yemeni drone that lured it right into the F-18's exhaust. Fucking incredible.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seriously L M A O

Houthis, well known for their fighter pilots

Either that or they seriously thought Russia/Iran were gonna just send fighter aircraft at an American cruiser which...L M A O